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View Poll Results: Will you be watching the House January 6 Committee hearing?
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Old 07-24-2022, 03:57 PM
 
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How do trump supporters feel about trumps lack of action despite his counsel ,aides and staffers pleading with him and the continued silence in the face of shots being fired and loss of life.

The Wall Street journal and Washington post find it shameful

 
Old 07-24-2022, 04:00 PM
 
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Originally Posted by wrecking ball View Post
from rudy giuliani's speech preceding trump's:


"Let’s have trial by combat. I’m willing to stake my reputation, the President is willing to stake his reputation, on the fact that we’re going to find criminality there."
We never had a trial by combat in the U.S. It's a Game of Throne political take. Do you know what is the meaning of trial by combat and aren't you taking it out of context and not put the whole thing?
 
Old 07-24-2022, 04:00 PM
 
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Nope, it’s their fault and those that couldn’t control themselves are paying the consequences. Your claims that because Trump incited it are feelings/assumption.
Hmmm, well no it’s not really my feelings that, in the weeks leading up to the certification, he pushed a lie that the election was fraudulent, that he and his cronies pushed the false narrative that he won, inciting anger and building up masses of resentment amongst his most ardent.

It is not my feeling that he held a “rally” on that day at that time in that location where he threw HIS OWN VICE PRESIDENT under the proverbial and set the mob off to stop Pence from certifying the election as is HIS FREAKIN JUTY.

He asked them to go there, they did, and that’s that. Any normal responsible POTUS would have not held that event in the first place. He wanted to go join them FFS. I’ll give him this, he has cojones the size of watermelons, the balls on the guy to actually try and pull that off. The urge to hold onto power at all costs is strong.
 
Old 07-24-2022, 04:03 PM
 
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How do trump supporters feel about trumps lack of action despite his counsel ,aides and staffers pleading with him and the continued silence in the face of shots being fired and loss of life.

The Wall Street journal and Washington post find it shameful

Sure, many actions by politicians might be shameful but it's not a crime. Biden ignoring the chaos in the border is shameful. W Bush 9/11 response was shameful. FDR's poor planning and response in Pearl Harbor attack was shameful. Obama droning was shameful. The illegals wars are shameful and the list is long but is not a crime. Obama and Holder actions during the Fast and the Furious gun scandal was shameful. Not a crime.


Get it?
 
Old 07-24-2022, 04:07 PM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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How do trump supporters feel about trumps lack of action despite his counsel ,aides and staffers pleading with him and the continued silence in the face of shots being fired and loss of life.

The Wall Street journal and Washington post find it shameful
Its been reported so that you will feel ashamed. They recognize that without the Jan 6 show Trump will win and be re elected...its a full court press now. Bannon, Trump, Meadows...they are building the gallows in their dreams, their children hate Trump, their in-laws sit at the dinner table and say a prayer for Biden to survive, they talk all night long about how to parse, delete, and share the videos all which condemn him and ALL the time refuse to consider any other person who breathes disagreement.

without cross examination, WITH anonymous witnesses just like in every dictatorship around the world. And you! YOU lap up this drivel and call it truth....and say Donald Trump is a monster and you excoriate us for being Americans who are unafraid of you.

Leave the zeroes

Get with the Heroes!


MAGA
 
Old 07-24-2022, 04:10 PM
 
Location: Richmond, VA
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What jury? This is a hearing not a trial.
Read the WHOLE post. I was responding to a poster who said “When there’s proof that will hold up in a court of law”. Okay, when that happens it’ll be up to the jury, not a bunch of message board types.
 
Old 07-24-2022, 04:11 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Its been reported so that you will feel ashamed. They recognize that without the Jan 6 show Trump will win and be re elected...its a full court press now. Bannon, Trump, Meadows...they are building the gallows in their dreams, their children hate Trump, their in-laws sit at the dinner table and say a prayer for Biden to survive, they talk all night long about how to parse, delete, and share the videos all which condemn him and ALL the time refuse to consider any other person who breathes disagreement.

without cross examination, WITH anonymous witnesses just like in every dictatorship around the world. And you! YOU lap up this drivel and call it truth....and say Donald Trump is a monster and you excoriate us for being Americans who are unafraid of you.

Leave the zeroes

Get with the Heroes!


MAGA
Nobody believes Trump is going to run besides his delusional base. You can take that out of your calculations and explanations.
 
Old 07-24-2022, 04:19 PM
 
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.... aren't you taking it out of context and not put the whole thing?

here's the entire transcript:


https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts...rial-by-combat


pretty clear, giuliani is trying to convince the crowd that a crime has been committed and they need to fight against it with a "trial by combat".
 
Old 07-24-2022, 04:23 PM
 
Location: Retired in VT; previously MD & NJ
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Except he didn’t tell them to physically fight. He told them to protest peacefully. Whatever happened after that is on them. No matter how many times you want to fit the narrative, you have no proof that he incited the riot.
The proof is that they rioted after hearing Trump's speech. The crowd understood what Trump wanted, and they did it.

You are the only one who can't seem to understand what Trump told the crowd to do.
 
Old 07-24-2022, 04:26 PM
 
Location: Retired in VT; previously MD & NJ
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I agree with you.

Though "fight like hell" could be taken rhetorically, the alternative sort of fight was actually over long before that rally. There was nothing left to fight for legally. The campaigning was complete: the people went to the rallies, they flew their flags on their pickup trucks and blew their horns and floated their flotillas of big boats with flags and blew their horns to show support for their guy, then they went to the polls and they lost, then they went to the courts and they lost, they also lost the recounts.

They weren't being told to go fly their flags some more. They weren't being told to campaign.

"Take the f---king mags away! Let my people in ..."
Donald J Trump | January 6, 2021 rant

Those speeches were designed to incite an angry mislead crowd into a physical fight and they were ready for violence. The armed groups, which planned and coordinated with Trump, Giuliani and Roger Stone were already on their way to the Capitol Building, having been unable to pass through the metal detectors.

Someone had planted bombs the night before.

One might charitably say that the rally crowd got out of hand, except in Trump's opinion (the only one that counts) they were not out of hand, they were doing what he expected them to do and he was pleased with it.

There is no 'narrative'. There are only the facts and they are damning.
Yes. The crowd at the ellipse understood full well what Trump wanted them to do. And they marched down to the Capitol and rioted. Trump watched it on TV and loved every minute of it. Such a sad little man.
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