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Old 06-16-2022, 02:18 PM
 
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Well 2 impeachments, that is good. More fraud when they created the campaign for Legal support and then never created the fund. Just spread the money into pockets of grifters.
Todays hearing has shown that Trump knew everything he arranged for Jan. 6 was illegal. Eastman asking for a pardon (email to Meadows shown) and pleading the 5th on video.

So I think before 2023 Trump will be indicted on Federal charges.
I will enjoy it immensely.
Surely live in an alternative world. This is what happens when you're propagandized.
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Old 06-16-2022, 02:19 PM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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CNN, NYT Times, ABC, NBC, MSNBC, Washington Post and every other fake news org has been seething with breaking news daily on Trump's possible criminal rest from for 7 years now. Give it a break, the man is cleaner than probably you.
You need to watch the hearing's. Trump the dirtiest POTUS in the nations history. He makes Nixon look good.
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Old 06-16-2022, 02:21 PM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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Surely live in an alternative world. This is what happens when you're propagandized.
Facts are facts. Just because you refuse to see them, does not mean they aint there
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Old 06-16-2022, 02:22 PM
 
Location: Cali
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Well 2 impeachments, that is good. More fraud when they created the campaign for Legal support and then never created the fund. Just spread the money into pockets of grifters.
Todays hearing has shown that Trump knew everything he arranged for Jan. 6 was illegal. Eastman asking for a pardon (email to Meadows shown) and pleading the 5th on video.

So I think before 2023 Trump will be indicted on Federal charges.
I will enjoy it immensely.
And what were the findings or dispositions for the impeachments?
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Old 06-16-2022, 02:45 PM
 
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You need to watch the hearing's. Trump the dirtiest POTUS in the nations history. He makes Nixon look good.
That is what it looks like when you only hear one cherry picked biased side on any case. Especially to those who are biased to begin with.

I was involved in a lawsuit once where after I read the other sides argument I was "almost" ready to agree with them.
In the end they lost and had to pay the court costs on top. The point is a good lawyer can make most cases look good if you only hear the one side.
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Old 06-16-2022, 02:47 PM
 
Location: Where my bills arrive
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You need to watch the hearing's. Trump the dirtiest POTUS in the nations history. He makes Nixon look good.
A least Nixon establish diplomatic relations with China which was a major accomplishment.
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Old 06-16-2022, 03:18 PM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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That is what it looks like when you only hear one cherry picked biased side on any case. Especially to those who are biased to begin with.

I was involved in a lawsuit once where after I read the other sides argument I was "almost" ready to agree with them.
In the end they lost and had to pay the court costs on top. The point is a good lawyer can make most cases look good if you only hear the one side.
One big exception. Trump staff and Attorney's going and answering questions under oath. Emails from them all.
Attorney taking the 5th 100 times, one who knew what he was doing was going to get himself in jail. He even sent an email trying to get on the pardon list.

No this is a great job done by a bipartisan committee.
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Old 06-16-2022, 03:25 PM
 
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Wasn't mentally stable then and doubt it's improved since the permanent exit .

Only a skilled objective medical professional could determine this citizens mental delusions.

Poor pathological liar ... Sad sad. Really sad ...hugely sad even.
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Old 06-16-2022, 03:33 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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A least Nixon establish diplomatic relations with China which was a major accomplishment.
Yup. Nixon was a paranoid, but he was also a quite effective statesman.
That's the biggest difference between him and Trump. Trump never knew enough about the fundamentals of governance to ever be an effective President.

I've often wondered what would have happened to Nixon if he had fired Hadleman, Erlichmann, and a few other advisors from his first term and found some replacements for them.

They all facilitated Nixon's paranoia during the 1974 election and turned Nixon's worst thoughts into actual plans. The "Plumber's Committee" never needed to be formed at all.

I'm sure that if any of them had come up with some simple excuse and kept Hunt away from the President, Nixon's second term would have been much better than his first. Nixon was riding high after his trip to China, and had the most self-confidence he had ever had afterward.

When Richard Nixon had a clear, politically honest objective in sight, with a clear goal, he did have the skill to see it through. And Nixon could be courageous when he pursued his goals.

His paranoia never allowed him to be comfortable in victory, though, so mentally, he was always at his worst when things were at their best for him. Those were the times when Nixon always began chasing shadows, and that's the way he always was.
All his advisors knew this; when he was VP, they found ways to chase away the shadows and get him back on track.

His first set of campaign advisors did the same in 1960. By 1968, all those people were gone, replaced by an entire bunch who used Nixon's paranoia to further their own ends and ambitions.

It was obvious to everyone that after the primaries ended Nixon would cruise through an easy victory into a second term.

All his advisors had to do was to convince him that was the fact, but they chose to indulge his paranoid fantasies instead, and made them worse when they did.

Really, all they had to do was limit Nixon's drinking. Nixon binged when he was having a paranoid spell, and the booze made it worse. He wasn't alcoholic, I believe; Nixon simply over-medicated with his booze in his worst moments.
But instead of putting the bottle away, they all sat around and drank with him and constantly fed his paranoia.
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Old 06-16-2022, 03:42 PM
 
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Trump is mentally stable and capable, it's the voters in this country I'm finding unfit.

I think what you're saying if you're a Trump supporter is that it is the voters who voted against Trump who are unfit. Would that be correct?
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