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Old 07-07-2022, 07:48 AM
 
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Originally Posted by GotHereQuickAsICould View Post
What if a couple years dow the road SCOTUS rules that since people continue to be too irresponsible to manage their own reproductive and birth control decisions, all males will have vasectomies at 12. Hopefully, reversible when they are ready to be a father.

I realizes that this is the government making medical decisions for certain citizens, but we've already crossed that line.
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The SCOTUS did not outlaw abortion. All the SCOTUS did was push the responsibility for abortion laws back to the individual states instead of being federally mandated. If you're not happy with the abortion laws in your state then that's where your focus should be.

And what if the individual state decides that all males will have vasectomies at 12. Hopefully, reversible when they are ready to be a father.

 
Old 07-07-2022, 07:49 AM
 
Location: Retired in VT; previously MD & NJ
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Gosnell was convicted of murder.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...1f9_story.html

Abortion kills regardless of when it's performed. It's intellectually dishonest to sometimes classify it as murder but other times not.
Wapo paywall

Saw something about babies surviving and being killed outside the womb?. No idea what that story is about.
 
Old 07-07-2022, 07:49 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Gosnell was a criminal doing criminal things.
He was performing abortions. Got convicted of murder for some of them.
 
Old 07-07-2022, 07:50 AM
 
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He was performing abortions. Got convicted of murder for some of them.
Why was he convicted of murder?
 
Old 07-07-2022, 07:51 AM
 
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Wapo paywall

Saw something about babies surviving and being killed outside the womb?. No idea what that story is about.
The murder of 3 aborted babies.
 
Old 07-07-2022, 07:52 AM
 
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Why was he convicted of murder?
He killed the aborted babies.
 
Old 07-07-2022, 08:14 AM
 
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He was performing abortions. Got convicted of murder for some of them.
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Why was he convicted of murder?
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The murder of 3 aborted babies.
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He killed the aborted babies.
Gosnell is an outlier case. He was performing illegal abortions for large amounts of money. He used drugs to induce abortion of late term babies, then killed them, if they were born alive, by cutting the spinal cord. His clinic was a nightmare, with aborted fetuses and babies stored randomly. His equipment was outdated and filthy. He was also convicted of multiple drug charges, murder of a patient, and various other crimes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kermit_Gosnell

This is likely going to occur more often now in states that have banned abortion(yes, there are supposed exceptions for life of the mother, we'll see how those play out).
 
Old 07-07-2022, 08:22 AM
 
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Gosnell is an outlier case. He was performing illegal abortions for large amounts of money. He used drugs to induce abortion of late term babies, then killed them, if they were born alive, by cutting the spinal cord. His clinic was a nightmare, with aborted fetuses and babies stored randomly. His equipment was outdated and filthy. He was also convicted of multiple drug charges, murder of a patient, and various other crimes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kermit_Gosnell

This is likely going to occur more often now in states that have banned abortion(yes, there are supposed exceptions for life of the mother, we'll see how those play out).
The point is that sometimes abortion is murder, sometimes it isn't. That's intellectually dishonest and you all know it.

Abortion kills. Period.
 
Old 07-07-2022, 08:24 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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How very odd that you deem saving human lives (fewer dead babies) to be "mean-spirited." That just epitomizes exactly what I've been saying... the 930,000 abortions performed each year has conditioned our society to believe that killing others to fix one's own issues is normal behavior. And then we wonder why there are mass shootings. It's because we live in a culture of death... killing for convenience is accepted as normal.
The same nasty, vile people on the Democratic Party left who do this, are also in the same group who are doing this:

What the Disgusting Racism Against Justice Thomas Reveals About the 'Anti-Racist' Side | Opinion - Newsweek

Justice Thomas singled out for racist slurs after Roe v. Wade overturned - The Washington Times

Calling Justice Thomas ‘Uncle Clarence’ exposes the rotten sham that is the progressive movement - New York Post

Bette Midler Shares Racist Meme Of Justice Thomas, Users React

What the reactions to Clarence Thomas post-Roe reveal about white liberals - NBC News

The remarks were so ubiquitous that “Uncle Clarence” began trending on Twitter, a reference to the eponymous character of Harriet Beecher Stowe’s “Uncle Tom’s Cabin,” who has emerged as a symbol of Black men who are too subservient to whites.

In practice, the term is primarily deployed against Black people who strike positions that elite liberals find distasteful. For instance, “Uncle Tim” previously trended on Twitter after Black Republican Sen. Tim Scott’s rebuttal of President Joe Biden’s inaugural address to a joint session of Congress.


Oh yeah, and these same nasty people always claim it's the Republicans who are the racists.
 
Old 07-07-2022, 08:49 AM
 
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And what if the individual state decides that all males will have vasectomies at 12. Hopefully, reversible when they are ready to be a father.

A+++


Especially if the state legislature is gerrymandered and egregiously suppresses the vote, therefore representing only a minority of the citizens. Of course, such a law likely would require a large majority of the legislature to be women!
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