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Single women have so many options now to not get pregnant in the first place and if they do they still have plan B.
And every method has a failure rate. So there will always be unintended pregnancies. Some of those women will be in a position to go through with the pregnancy and some will not.
BTW, Plan B only works if taken within 72 hours. There are situations where the woman thinks she is covered by her birth control and discovers she is pregnant a few weeks later. Oops.
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And every method has a failure rate. So there will always be unintended pregnancies. Some of those women will be in a position to go through with the pregnancy and some will not.
BTW, Plan B only works if taken within 72 hours. There are situations where the woman thinks she is covered by her birth control and discovers she is pregnant a few weeks later. Oops.
Every method? What's the failure rate for the abstinence method, or for the sex without penetration method?
As for the pill and other manners of BC, while using it as directed it has a success rate of 99%, when not used perfectly then it has a success rate of 91%. IF BC were used then it would dramatically drop the number of abortions.
What is this obsession with the constantly bolded 930,000?
In this first place, these are not children. Not yet. Some will be, and once they are born, such passion about their safety and survival would be understandable.
Sadly, the safety and survival of children once they are in school is not as important as the "right" to buy an AR-15.
You are arguing with a completely irrational person. It's hopeless.
Every method? What's the failure rate for the abstinence method, or for the sex without penetration method?
As for the pill and other manners of BC, while using it as directed it has a success rate of 99%, when not used perfectly then it has a success rate of 91%. IF BC were used then it would dramatically drop the number of abortions.
What do you think happens to women in the 9% ineffective category? You can't ignore those women or teens.
Abstinence in a marriage will lead to divorce in many cases.
As to sex without penetration, I actually knew somebody back in college. They got close while fooling around and she still had her panties on. Got pregnant. They got married earlier than they had planned and she had the baby. So there was no reason to tell any stories about how she got pregnant.
Unless a woman lives as a hermit, no method of BC is 100% effective in real life. Those women deserve to be able to plan their lives as they see fit without interference from you or the government.
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What is this obsession with the constantly bolded 930,000?
In this first place, these are not children. Not yet. Some will be, and once they are born, such passion about their safety and survival would be understandable.
Sadly, the safety and survival of children once they are in school is not as important as the "right" to buy an AR-15.
hogwash. Even the federal government claims the unborn are "children":
18 U.S. Code § 1841 - Protection of unborn children
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What do you think happens to women in the 9% ineffective category? You can't ignore those women or teens.
Why are you ignoring the fact that if BC is used by everyone who has sex then the pregnancy rate would massively drop?
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Abstinence in a marriage will lead to divorce in many cases.
Abstinence, or maybe sex without penetration, during a woman's fertile times would lead to divorce? Well, then it doesn't sound like it would be much of a marriage to begin with.
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As to sex without penetration, I actually knew somebody back in college. They got close while fooling around and she still had her panties on. Got pregnant. They got married earlier than they had planned and she had the baby. So there was no reason to tell any stories about how she got pregnant.
You start out talking about sex without penetration then you wander into telling a story where it didn't happen.
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Unless a woman lives as a hermit, no method of BC is 100% effective in real life. Those women deserve to be able to plan their lives as they see fit without interference from you or the government.
Where did I say it was 100% effective? Again, if it were used by those who are fertile and want to have sex then the pregnancy numbers would massively drop....why are you against fewer pregnancies and fewer abortions?
Why are you ignoring the fact that if BC is used by everyone who has sex then the pregnancy rate would massively drop?
Abstinence, or maybe sex without penetration, during a woman's fertile times would lead to divorce? Well, then it doesn't sound like it would be much of a marriage to begin with.
You start out talking about sex without penetration then you wander into telling a story where it didn't happen.
Where did I say it was 100% effective? Again, if it were used by those who are fertile and want to have sex then the pregnancy numbers would massively drop....why are you against fewer pregnancies and fewer abortions?
Twist twist twist.
My little story of the college friend was sex without penetration. She got pregnant! That so-called BC method of yours does not prevent pregnancy.
Also, there are men and women across the country who'd been imprisoned for murdering unborn children.
The unborn do not magically become human or children at the moment of their birth.
Did you miss this section?
(c) Nothing in this section shall be construed to permit the prosecution— (1) of any person for conduct relating to an abortion for which the consent of the pregnant woman, or a person authorized by law to act on her behalf, has been obtained or for which such consent is implied by law;
(2) of any person for any medical treatment of the pregnant woman or her unborn child; or
(3) of any woman with respect to her unborn child.
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