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There are probably 'hot spots' still propping up here and there. But by and large, most people have wieghed the risk by now and we see life going on.
There are still cities that are in serious lockdown mode in China. Like,..you can't leave your home except scheduled shopping supply day type lockdowns. Their tolerance is super low compared to what we'd find acceptable.
It's not Biden's fault. Cut the guy some slack, will ya? The thing is, Trump made such a big mess that no human being on this earth can clean up!
What "big mess"? Fast tracking vaccine development? Trying, and being blocked and vilified, to stop travel from Covid hotspots? Trying to not cause a panic? Yet those who died up until January 20, 2021 are "Trump's fault". If you guys didn't have double standards you wouldn't have any standards at all.
Strangely enough, though, even with vaccines more people died of Covid on Biden's watch than Trump's.
It's not strange. "We refuse to mask or distance" became even more of a thing after Biden became president, so why wouldn't it spread more, including to the unvaccinated and to people who were alread compromised?
At the same time, more people *got* covid due to this strange, dangerous babyishness, hence making total numbers larger, but data shows expected deaths were prevented by more than half.
The death toll *was already rising* while Trump was president, but he only had to deal with Covid for 10 months, the first several months of which nowhere near as many people were testing yet and therefore fewer cases were showing. After all, as Trump said, if people would stop testing there would be "very few" cases, remember that?
Biden has been president for 18 months, ALL of which he has tried to deal with covid, amidst tremendous opposition, threats of lawsuits, the whole ball of wax. In 2021 routine testing became a thing as kids went back to school and adults went back to work. So many more cases were being uncovered. Then the vaccine was available in a rollout in 2021 (a very select few, including Trump, got it in December, I think). For months it was only essential workers and the compromised. Next, IIRC, it was over-60s.
Then finally it was for 18+ (and later than that, under 18 and then under 15).
The vaccine has been available for "everyone's" use now for about a year. So during the first year of Biden's presidency, many people *weren't* vaccinated yet (since as I stated, and as surely we all remember, once it did become available it was only available to certain populations at first). That's one factor in the "bigger numbers" claim. Another is simply the longer total length of time. And a third is extreme opposition, along with unmasking happening and people going back to work and school. Yes, the president had plans to kick covid. But a huge angry faction has done everything in their power to kick that in the rear in order to prove how incompetent Biden is and to fight against, ironically, what Trump now calls Trump's vaccine. Very mature. The last factor is that people went back to large group situations, many refusing to mask and so on, only near the end of Trump's reign and this was in full swing only when Biden became president.
We all experienced...well, all of this. How people can deliberately overlook it because they are still rear-sore over an election loss is beyond me. What or whom are you serving by doing so?
It's not strange. "We refuse to mask or distance" became even more of a thing after Biden became president, so why wouldn't it spread more, including to the unvaccinated and to people who were alread compromised?
At the same time, more people *got* covid due to this strange, dangerous babyishness, hence making total numbers larger, but data shows expected deaths were prevented by more than half.
The death toll *was already rising* while Trump was president, but he only had to deal with Covid for 10 months, the first several months of which nowhere near as many people were testing yet and therefore fewer cases were showing. after all, as Trump said, if people would stop testing there would be "very few" cases.
Biden has been president for 18 months. In 2021 routine testing became a thing as kids went back to school and adults went back to work. So many more cases were being uncovered. Then the vaccine was available on a rollout in 2021 (a very select few, including Trump, got it in December, I think). It's been available for "everyone's" use now for about a year. So during the first year of Biden's presidency, many people *weren't* vaccinated yet.
We all experienced...well, all of this. How people can deliberately overlook it because they are still rear-sore over an election loss is beyond me. What or whom are you serving by doing so?
Masking and distancing were pointless and useless.
Spare us the whining about politics. Politicizing the virus was just great when it could be done to attack Trump and get him out of office. Now we’re supposed to forget about how you liberals politicized COVID from Day One? LOL - not happening.
What "big mess"? Fast tracking vaccine development? Trying, and being blocked and vilified, to stop travel from Covid hotspots? Trying to not cause a panic? Yet those who died up until January 20, 2021 are "Trump's fault". If you guys didn't have double standards you wouldn't have any standards at all.
I forgot, Biden stutters.
Trump was "vilified" because he did not try to *block* travel. He only tried to block Asians from coming back into, or back into the U.S. Non-Asian American travelers *coming back from China* were allowed back in, as well as many other exceptions. Because what? If you don't look Asian you don't catch covid as easily, or something?
So it was not a travel "ban."
Trying not to cause panic: I doubt that was his motive since from the beginning he complained about the economy and it was an election year. What he caused was doubt, distrust, fury, division and the total LACK of his ONE CHANCE at putting his foot down and getting *his nation* together in one place, on one track for a brief period of time. His back-and-forth and his divisiveness and making sure he kept talking about how stupid it all was planted the seeds of what is still going on today, constant struggle, constant fighting, "two sides," and a whole hell of a lot of illness...spread everywhere.
Fast-tracking vaccine development: yes, we have Trump to thank for the vaccine conservatives now say are total garbage and may even cause harm. Good job, Donald. Did you take Trump's vaccine?
It feels like the worst wave to me, as far as number of people infected, but even my sister's old and infirm FIL came through it with no major problems.
While it's contagious, it's typically very mild.
Generally you are correct, as it is more contagious, but less lethal. However, while BA4 is very mild by all accounts, BA5 seems to not only be escaping the mRNA shots even more, but unlike previous variants of Omicron, it is getting into the lower respiratory tract, and causing some to become seriously ill. Thus your sister fortunately might well have caught BA4, which could account for her mild symptoms.
That said, I think the OP was pointing out the hypocrisy of the MSM/left, because if Trump (or any R for that matter) were in power, they would be beating them over the head. Instead since it is a (D) administration, they are not covering it in the same way.
Hopefully that didn't fly over your head, but if it did, now your next reply might take on a different tone.
It's not strange. "We refuse to mask or distance" became even more of a thing after Biden became president, so why wouldn't it spread more, including to the unvaccinated and to people who were alread compromised?
At the same time, more people *got* covid due to this strange, dangerous babyishness, hence making total numbers larger, but data shows expected deaths were prevented by more than half.
The death toll *was already rising* while Trump was president, but he only had to deal with Covid for 10 months, the first several months of which nowhere near as many people were testing yet and therefore fewer cases were showing. After all, as Trump said, if people would stop testing there would be "very few" cases, remember that?
Biden has been president for 18 months, ALL of which he has tried to deal with covid, amidst tremendous opposition, threats of lawsuits, the whole ball of wax. In 2021 routine testing became a thing as kids went back to school and adults went back to work. So many more cases were being uncovered. Then the vaccine was available in a rollout in 2021 (a very select few, including Trump, got it in December, I think). For months it was only essential workers and the compromised. Next, IIRC, it was over-60s.
Then finally it was for 18+ (and later than that, under 18 and then under 15).
The vaccine has been available for "everyone's" use now for about a year. So during the first year of Biden's presidency, many people *weren't* vaccinated yet (since as I stated, and as surely we all remember, once it did become available it was only available to certain populations at first). That's one factor in the "bigger numbers" claim. Another is simply the longer total length of time. And a third is extreme opposition, along with unmasking happening and people going back to work and school. Yes, the president had plans to kick covid. But a huge angry faction has done everything in their power to kick that in the rear in order to prove how incompetent Biden is and to fight against, ironically, what Trump now calls Trump's vaccine. Very mature. The last factor is that people went back to large group situations, many refusing to mask and so on, only near the end of Trump's reign and this was in full swing only when Biden became president.
We all experienced...well, all of this. How people can deliberately overlook it because they are still rear-sore over an election loss is beyond me. What or whom are you serving by doing so?
That is quite an intricate fairy tale that you are compelled to believe because of your politics. Judging by polling, the number of people who join you in believing this narrative is dwindling.
Instead, people are applying Occam's Razor to our current reality and saying, "maybe Joe Biden never actually had any ideas for Covid that had any chance of working, he just claimed he did."
Now that most of the population have been vaccinated, what's the mortality rate?
Exactly. The impact of this wave, while widespread and very contagious, is typically less severe thanks to the millions of people who got the vax and boosters. The outcome is usually a stay-at-home period, possibly with a prescription that cuts it short, and no hospitalization. In this manner it actually does tend to resemble seasonal flu in the perspective of the broad population. I see more people with masks, I wore one yesterday, but they are going about their business. The "Biden regime" encourages vaccination and boosters and in-home isolation if you are positive for the virus.
Each wave of this virus is a little different and this one seems capable of breaking through the immunity that we might have built up, but it is not (yet) overtaxing the hospitals as were earlier virus waves. Everyone I know that has had it recently has been notably sick but got over it in a reasonably short time. I suspect that we might have infected carriers who are not sick or showing symptoms resulting in the high contagion rate.
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