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Yeah but, as I keep saying, what one person thinks is clear evidence another person might think is weak or nonexistent evidence. Finding evidence means you have a hypothesis, and it still needs to be tested and verified.
Did Bannon build a wall? Or even start one with the money he collected from donors? No wall. So who got the money? Yes they have logic and evidence. They would not bring a case if they had no evidence. Can you do logic?
Evidence is not an hypothesis. It's proof. You can't indict someone on a hypothesis.
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/evidence
Evidence : Law. data presented to a court or jury in proof of the facts in issue and which may include the testimony of witnesses, records, documents, or objects.
What?? If evidence were proof there wouldn't be any need for trials!
They go after some people and they leave others alone. As I said, whatever Biden might have done with his son are not considered important enough.
And do you think Bill Clinton never crossed any fine lines with his charities? Or Bill Gates? Or many many others who are left alone.
But they have dogged after Trump since 2016. And never got him on anything yet. Doesn't that make you at all suspicious?
How do you define "left alone"? I remember the 1990s. Bill and Hilary Clinton were investigated for YEARS for malfeasance related to a real estate scandal called Whitewater. No wrongdoing was found but not for lack of trying. As a sitting president Bill was investigated and impeached for making false statements around the Monica Lewinsky scandal. Hilary Clinton was investigated thoroughly for the email thing and ultimately no prosecution was brought. You can be sure that the Clinton Foundation has had its operations under a microscope since day 1. Hunter Biden is still under investigation for business dealings.
Democrats want potential criminals to be investigated. What is this "left alone" you are referring to? Perhaps you see fewer Democrats being investigated or convicted of crimes because perhaps, just perhaps, they commit fewer crimes.
But the scales used to be more even, for sure. Trump has created a criminal political class like none we have ever seen before, even in the dark days of Teapot Dome and other hideous scandals.
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yeah you did. Trump didn't pardon them so their federal case wasn't dropped and the evidence they had on them proved that these two men used monies given to them from Bannon for something other than building the wall.
All I know is you can't indict someone without evidence. This from my decades of experience in the legal field.
And would you call the persecution of the Meulleur debacle towards the President? Or the Steele Dossier or any of the many false testimonies. How does that fit with your decades of experience. Where do those go?
What?? If evidence were proof there wouldn't be any need for trials!
Everyone is entitled to a fair trial. Prosecution presents its evidence. Defense rebuts. The jury may or may not convict based on what they're shown. That's how the justice system works. You don't go directly from your hand in the cookie jar straight to prison. He could be acquitted. Guilty people get aquitted all the time. But it's a process.
Believe me, none of us know what he really did. And I have not been able to find any objective reporting.
Okay - one more time.
You are the bagman who scams $25 million hard-earned dollars out of thousands of people, many of whom probably went without vacations to contribute, under the pretense that you are going to build a wall on private property, with no explanation given as to how you intend to accomplish same. Your accomplice and front man is a war veteran and a triple amputee who you use to garner sympathy for your cause. You have one more accomplice who stays in the background. You promise that 100% of the donations will go directly to steel beams and concrete, and people to put them into place, as an entirely altruistic act of patriotism.
You then proceed to use the contributions like everyone deposited them directly into your personal piggy bank, and scoop out a million bucks for yourself. You give another 350 grand to your front man, and more payments to #2. Then, for some unknown reason, a "political witch hunt" begins, and you are all indicted for fraud, because you still have done nothing with the money intended for wall building except stuff it in your pocket, which is called, for those who don't know, Wire Fraud. Toss in "Tax Evasion" for good measure, since you have set up shell companies to distribute the stolen money and avoid detection. You are pardoned by your close friend and sometime employer, who happens to be the president. Your accomplices are entirely forgotten in the process.
Your front man enters a guilty plea with the stipulation that he not serve more than 63 months (he was facing 46 years), and confesses everything. #2 also pleads guilty, and is facing four years for his lesser role in the scam. The Manhattan DA, who helped assemble the Federal case you were pardoned for, now has access to financial records, bank records, social media posts, and all of the emails and text messages all of you shared.
The Manhattan DA decides to pick up where the pardon left off and create a new investigation, resulting in your being indicted once again. Your accomplices, who have nothing further to lose, will in all likelihood be called on to testify against you. You are, in the vernacular, up a creek, in deep poop, and thoroughly hosed.
And would you call the persecution of the Meulleur debacle towards the President? Or the Steele Dossier or any of the many false testimonies. How does that fit with your decades of experience. Where do those go?
Yeah.
I mean, who in their right mind would ever say that evidence is proof? There is weak evidence, strong evidence, fake evidence, damning evidence, contradictory evidence, etc.
And, as I said, if evidence were proof why waste time and money on trials?
And would you call the persecution of the Meulleur debacle towards the President? Or the Steele Dossier or any of the many false testimonies. How does that fit with your decades of experience. Where do those go?
Mueller didn't exonerate Trump. Trump's lawsuit against Hillary et al., regarding the Steele Dossier was dismissed. That may say something if you care to hear it. But I'm sure you will continue asserting deep state.
I mean, who in their right mind would ever say that evidence is proof? There is weak evidence, strong evidence, fake evidence, damning evidence, contradictory evidence, etc.
And, as I said, if evidence were proof why waste time and money on trials?
So three men are indicted for fraud. One of them is accused of passing on money to two others for wrongful reasons.
Those two men plead guilty of that crime, in so many words admitting that the third man did in fact give them the money and shouldn't have.
The third guy is pardoned by the President. Which means he CANNOT go to trial.
So the state of New York pursues the criminal charges for the third guy
I think their case is pretty sound having two of the three already admitting they are guilty.
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