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Old 09-11-2022, 12:12 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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I agree, there is no way that Bannon knew what his partners were doing...

Just like Trump didn't know that his campaign guys were hanging out with Russians...

Just like Reagan didn't know that Ollie North was selling arms to Iran.

Just like Nixon didn't know about the Watergate burglars.

For some reason, Republicans don't seem to know what is going on around them.
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Old 09-11-2022, 12:13 PM
 
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Everyone is entitled to a fair trial. Prosecution presents its evidence. Defense rebuts. The jury may or may not convict based on what they're shown. That's how the justice system works. You don't go directly from your hand in the cookie jar straight to prison. He could be acquitted. Guilty people get aquitted all the time. But it's a process.

This is how the trial system works:
https://www.americanbar.org/groups/p...ringingcharge/
But you said evidence is proof! You said they would not indict him without evidence. So you were saying that anyone who is indicted must be guilty!

YOU ARE NOT MAKING ANY SENSE.
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Old 09-11-2022, 12:13 PM
 
Location: TUS/PDX
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Something about this is wrong, because, as I said, Bannon already knew they were out to get him. Would you commit obvious crimes if you knew you were a political target?
Never underestimate the sheer stupidly of the criminal element. In Bannon's case there's also at lot of hubris involved. Dude thinks/thought he was above the law.
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Old 09-11-2022, 12:16 PM
 
Location: Chicago area
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What is a pardon? It is an admission of guilt with an exoneration. What did Trump pardon Bannon for? The federal charges against Bannon for scamming the rubes for his build the wall grift.

So we have an admitted felon coming up on state charges for defrauding the rubes who has already admitted his guilt for his pardon.

What about double jeopardy? Bannon's case never went to trial before Trump pardoned him. New York also closed the loophole in 2019 that would have allowed Bannon to slip through the cracks. Keep an eye on October 21st. Bannon will be sentenced for his 2 count convictions for contempt of congress.

Some of the responses here from the low information are embarrassing. Seriously, read something outside of your small small partisan bubble.

Bannon is really a good guy? Come on man.
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Old 09-11-2022, 12:20 PM
 
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Never underestimate the sheer stupidly of the criminal element. In Bannon's case there's also at lot of hubris involved. Dude thinks/thought he was above the law.
Nope, that doesn't add up.
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Old 09-11-2022, 12:27 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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And would you call the persecution of the Meulleur debacle towards the President? Or the Steele Dossier or any of the many false testimonies. How does that fit with your decades of experience. Where do those go?
We've been through all this before, repeatedly.

Mueller never cleared Trump. What he said was in essence that he didn't think he had the authority to indict a sitting president because of a DOJ memo that does not carry force of law, and he kicked the decision back to Congress. There were nine instances in his report where he stated that Trump committed Obstruction. The report by the bipartisan Senate Intelligence Committee confirmed that there was collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia.

The Steele Dossier was first commissioned by the Washington Free Beacon, a conservative entity, to try to stop Trump from getting the republican nomination. When he was nominated they dropped the project. Hillary's campaign picked it up.

The Steele Dossier would probably have never become public knowledge had Steele not gone to the FBI with what he heard from Moscow that led him to believe Trump was in a position where he could be blackmailed. Steele was conducting opposition research by reporting the rumors that were spreading around Russia in government offices about Trump that his sources brought him, and was compiled over 13 months. It was never represented to be fact, merely scuttlebutt from Russian sources.

Steele tried to use what he knew to help Trump. The FBI never would have talked to him, but when he called they already had a folder open with the same information from a different source. He was invited in for an interview and gave the FBI everything he had.

Using either of those two to try to prove that anything was a "witch hunt" or "fake news" is patently absurd.

Do better.

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Old 09-11-2022, 12:34 PM
 
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He pled not guilty, and would not do that if he was guilty.
His colleagues pleaded guilty. Bannon accepted a pardon, which is an admission of guilt, legally.
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Old 09-11-2022, 12:37 PM
 
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His colleagues pleaded guilty. Bannon accepted a pardon, which is an admission of guilt, legally.
Why is he now being indicted for something he was pardoned of?
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Old 09-11-2022, 12:41 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Why is he now being indicted for something he was pardoned of?
He was pardoned on Federal charges. He is now facing state charges in New York, where the scam was conducted. He's facing 5-15 years on conviction of Wire Fraud and Tax Evasion.
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Old 09-11-2022, 12:42 PM
 
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Why is he now being indicted for something he was pardoned of?
He was pardoned for the federal charges. The state can still charge him and did.
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