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Old 10-03-2022, 06:04 AM
 
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Its 2022 not 1902, and weather you like it or not in 2022 a conscious decision to not employ someone based on their gender in any position is discrimination.

I would, I am a stay ate home father, and I KNOW the huge majority of men are actually very good loving descent people. Maybe things are entirely different in the USA, but anyone with any kind of Criminal record or documented mental illness etc, would have zero chance of legally working in a day care center in Australia.

Its just not childcare either, one point I have with my wifie is she is so afraid of putting strange men in my daughters life, she will not even let me take my daughter to the male piano teacher I use myself. Nope its got to be a girl. Of course I don't say anything about it to keep the peace.

How about we amend your little game, you give me $1 for every male that has died in any kind of war or uprising in order to get a vote, over every female who had to do the same.

Even here in Australia which was the second country in the world to give females universal suffrage (New Zealand was the first), our democracy is often stated to have been born in a rebellion that saw 23 men die in a gun battle with British Soldiers, and that is tiny by world standards.
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It took all the blood shed and sacrifice of WW1 for for the British government to finally decide, "hey maybe we should give our men universal suffrage", they finally got it in 1918, almost 700 years after the first parliament was formed.
You’re absolutely right things are different in the USA. I want you to Google “America, predator police sting” and take a look at the large group busts being reported. Take a look at the mug shots of 90% of them. Who are in the photos? You’re absolutely right, not every man is a predator. But here in the USA fathers don’t get guns to protect their family against women, they do it to protect against men. You know those things called mass shootings that happen here in USA every week? It’s not a bunch of women.

To your point about the $1 for every male who died in the uprising to vote, have you ever wondered why they had to in the first place? There’s only 2 genders (I don’t believe that other nonsense) so I ask, who’s fault was it those men had to die in war? Men or women’s? Is there a chance that this same thought pattern that caused people to put policies in place that denied certain men the right to vote the same behavior feminists call out?

Scenario: you’re at the park and a grown man starts talking to your child out of nowhere. You’re going to just let him talk to them right, because surely it’s minimal the amount of men who have bad intentions is so low?

 
Old 10-03-2022, 06:20 AM
 
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I disagree. For example in the black community the net worth of a woman is 5 bucks. Consumer debt, student loans and low paying jobs have black women doing poorly while being highly educated. Men are still earning more but the women don't want the average guy. They want the guy who can but 100k cars and take vacations once every other month. Geeez. Where did they get that from? Ohh. Social media. Guess what ladies. Only the top percent of guys can afford that. Good luck getting one of those guys when you are a 5.
You’re another one who probably doesn’t go outside or touch grass often.

You’re saying they want the guy who can buy $100K cars and take vacations once a month but yet when I go into any black neighborhood I see plenty of couples but not many nice cars. When I go on my social medias I see plenty of couples and again, they are not on vacations every month. Do y’all not go grocery shopping, to the movies, or activities and see regular average couples?

What people say and what they do are two different things. Yes, they SAY they want that top man just like men say they want the dime super model.

The same guy that says “I couldn’t date a woman that ____” guess what he ends up doing…dating a woman that does ____”.

The same way you’re saying good luck to them, let’s say good luck to the men. “Guess what guys, only the top percent of men qualify for the model bombshell. Good luck getting one of them when you’re fat, balding, and make less than $70K a year”.

Remember in algebra, what you do to one side you gotta do to the other?
 
Old 10-03-2022, 07:25 AM
 
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Without love and companionship or any chance of getting it. People can get lonely, they take on drugs, abuse alcohol, can become suicidal, and then society has to deal with all the consequences of that, it gets particularly bad if you throw unemployment into the mix as well.

The Crisis is nothing about men not been able to get any women he wants, its about having someone or something they can turn to when they have none, and the ability to feel accepted and wanted by people and able to contribute to society.
Then people have been suffering this crisis since the beginning of time.
That sounds like what every high school kids goes through at some point.
 
Old 10-03-2022, 07:40 AM
 
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Talking about adaptability or stubbornness , would you hire a male babysitter, or happily leave your children at a day care center run entirely by men? Men need to accept women into traditional male roles and have been doing so for decades, have women been accepting men into traditional females roles to the same degree? As women rise up in power have the accepted they may need to date down to get a partner?

Immigrants tend to outperform domestic students across both sexes, been male has zero to do with it.

Have you ever asked your self why some boys do nothing but play video games? Maybe it could be because they feel they have no sense of purpose or obligations to a society that does not like them because of there gender, rather than laziness? Could it just be another release like alcohol abuse, gambling or drug addiction, and other such things that people who feel left out by society often turn to?

Men also do the majority of 60 plus hour paid working weeks, here in Australia a full time working man is three times more likely to be doing 50 plus hours of paid work a week than a full time working female, its part of the reason for the gender pay gap exists (It assumes full time working men are working the same number of hours as a full time working women, when the men actually work more). Sounds more like a case of dammed if you do and dammed if you don't ?

Basically your post seems to be a bunch of negative stereotypes thrown together, with very little thought.
Honey, men dont want to be babysitters and daycare workers. The pay stinks and men think it is a "womans job". I will tell you as a 60 year old female who has worked most of my adult in a male dominated field that men did not just accept women into traditional male roles. Women had to fight and basically wait until all the older men retired or died.

Have you ever thought some boys are just lazy and unmotivated. There are plenty of things young boys can get involved in if they choose to. I had boys and grandsons. Sports, basketball, football, boxing, track, riflery, boy scouts, church groups are things mine got involved with, they also played video games. In addition there are various programs through charities and government funding.

What do you think the women are doing so the men can work? Taking care of the children perhaps. Plenty of single women and mothers here in the US work 50 hours per week. Also women tend to work different type jobs, government offices, social services, teachers, secretaries which have limited hours opposed to jobs men hold, construction, factories, maintenance, mills, corporate.

what do you suggest be done to get men in lower paying, fewer hours, kid friendly jobs. What additional programs would prevent boys from turning to excessive video game playing, etc.
 
Old 10-03-2022, 07:47 AM
 
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Maybe this is something a large number of women don't fully understand or appreciate.

Men, lacking the intrinsic value we assign everyone born female, have evolved in such a way that they need responsibilities within their families and communities.

Defined responsibilities give men a sense of purpose and a reason for being.
What intrinsic values do we assign females. Historically, women have never been highly valued in societies or even within families. Few legal or social rights, no intrinsic identity. It's always been hoped for and rewarded to have sons if for nothing else than to carry on the family name. Some societies went as far as aborting or killing newborn females.

What makes you think men do not have responsibilities withing their families and communities. Just because some do not take up those responsibilities does not mean they don't exist. All the men in my family had responsibilities, still do.
 
Old 10-03-2022, 07:51 AM
 
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Are men in crisis?
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I don’t need to watch the video to know that there is. Straight, strong males (particularly Caucasians) have been under attacked by the Left for awhile now.
Nonsense.

Supremacists like to play the victim, it is a convenient excuse for their bad behavior. Straight, strong males (particularly Caucasians) have nothing to fear from anyone. We can, and do, stand on our own two feet and we are doing fine on an even playing field.
 
Old 10-03-2022, 08:01 AM
 
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We don’t always agree on this subject but I do tend to agree with what you’re stating but not as direct. So you see my angle is to try and teach men to up their game. To become more masculine, to become more of what a woman desires. Too many men these days just are OK with settling in to being non-masculine, a mediocre income, and a beta type mentality. Now as I’ve stated before not every man can be an alpha and not every woman wants an alpha but generally speaking women are attracted to men of stature, who have A more masculine type characteristics. And any man can do things to make himself be this way. You don’t have to be 6 foot four and full of muscle to be considered masculine by a woman. Get your butt in shape as best you can, don’t say yes please to everything, stand up for yourself, have some character, dress nice, smell nice, know what you want and where you’re going with your life, and the high quality women will show up. Lol

That said, this is why I say that many women are sharing the top 10% of men. And I know what you’re gonna say how do all these couples end up married. I’m talking about within the dating world. People who aren’t locked down yet. The men who are not in that top 10% aren’t getting dates. The men who are in the top 10% are getting too many dates. Men who are below that top 10% need to up their game. Even if they can’t quite get in that circle they can get as close to it as they potentially can and they’ll start seeing an increase in interested women.

Where I am with you and agree with you as I am a firm believer that you cannot force attraction. Sorry guys. And you don’t want to be involved with a woman who is not attracted to you. That’s a recipe for disaster.
You strayed in your third sentence. When you stop assuming all women are of one hive mind and not individuals, you know like men are individuals, then you are already lost.

I taught my boys to be themselves. To be the best they can be, confident, hardworking, trustworthy, honest, descent human beings, to be true to themselves and not become what others want them to be. That getting laid is not the be all end all. That if they stay true to themselves they would find a confident, hardworking, trustworthy, honest, descent woman.

Even in dating women are not sharing the top 10% of men. If you ever had any math class beyond third grade you would know that is impossible.
What your actually saying is the 90% of men arent getting the top 10% of the women they think they deserve because the top 10% of men are getting the top 10% of women and that 90% dont want the 90% of women in their own socioeconomic circle, as you see it.
 
Old 10-03-2022, 08:10 AM
 
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Originally Posted by danielsa1775 View Post
Its 2022 not 1902, and weather you like it or not in 2022 a conscious decision to not employ someone based on their gender in any position is discrimination.

I would, I am a stay ate home father, and I KNOW the huge majority of men are actually very good loving descent people. Maybe things are entirely different in the USA, but anyone with any kind of Criminal record or documented mental illness etc, would have zero chance of legally working in a day care center in Australia.

Its just not childcare either, one point I have with my wifie is she is so afraid of putting strange men in my daughters life, she will not even let me take my daughter to the male piano teacher I use myself. Nope its got to be a girl. Of course I don't say anything about it to keep the peace.

How about we amend your little game, you give me $1 for every male that has died in any kind of war or uprising in order to get a vote, over every female who had to do the same.

Even here in Australia which was the second country in the world to give females universal suffrage (New Zealand was the first), our democracy is often stated to have been born in a rebellion that saw 23 men die in a gun battle with British Soldiers, and that is tiny by world standards.
"
It took all the blood shed and sacrifice of WW1 for for the British government to finally decide, "hey maybe we should give our men universal suffrage", they finally got it in 1918, almost 700 years after the first parliament was formed.
I have to say I am surprised, as it has been my experience that men are more resistant to having men as babysitters, day care, teachers, etc. at least for their young daughters than are women.

You do realize, at least here in the US, women were not allowed in combat until just a few years ago. All the wars that have been declared were men's doing and it was men who disallowed women in combat. Also dont forget all the women who volunteered and died in non-combat positions, all the women who keep the county going while men were in service and all the civilian women who were killed in war. I think you might want to shelf that argument.
 
Old 10-03-2022, 08:14 AM
 
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1) Historically, women have never been highly valued in societies or even within families.
2) Few legal or social rights, no intrinsic identity.
3) It's always been hoped for and rewarded to have sons if for nothing else than to carry on the family name. 4) Some societies went as far as aborting or killing newborn females.
1) Biologically, females are always more valuable than males.

2) They couldn't own property and couldn't sign contracts, but women have almost always ruled their households. As the Roman, Cato the Elder said, "All mankind rules its women, and we rule all mankind, but our women rule us."

Equality always favors women.

3) If you didn't have at least one son you would have no one to leave your farm to.

4) That could only happen in a society where reproduction had no value and where resources were scarce(especially food).
 
Old 10-03-2022, 08:49 AM
 
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1) Biologically, females are always more valuable than males.

2) They couldn't own property and couldn't sign contracts, but women have almost always ruled their households. As the Roman, Cato the Elder said, "All mankind rules its women, and we rule all mankind, but our women rule us."

Equality always favors women.

3) If you didn't have at least one son you would have no one to leave your farm to.

4) That could only happen in a society where reproduction had no value and where resources were scarce(especially food).
Re #2, the woman I came the closest to marrying……her father was a legendary USN fighter pilot (already retired when I started dating his daughter). He had this t-shirt that he loved to wear. The front of the shirt read “I’m the boss, and my wife gives me permission to say so”. . They were the greatest people roughly of my parents generation (her dad was seven years younger than my parents, and her mom was nine years younger than my parents) who I have ever known.
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