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Old 10-11-2022, 01:18 PM
 
Location: A safe distance from San Francisco
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Thank you so much for posting this. Tulsi is a very interesting, very intelligent, and potentially very inspiring woman.

My first reaction was inspiration, if not elation, despite the fact that it took her way too long to make this change. But as she continued, as she articulated conservative talking points in nearly textbook fashion, some of which are harder right than I am, it became increasingly difficult to to be sure who the real Tulsi Gabbard is.

No doubt we'll hear a lot more from her and hopefully she'll help us reconcile this new Tulsi with the 20-year Democrat she was.

Now I'm going to leap forward from the assumption that she will do that somehow to our satisfaction.

Trump/Gabbard 2024 As independents or their own new party. Talk about a winner.
Well, I think most of us agree that she sure did impress in that video. But further investigation reveals that accomplishing the blue highlighted will be a much tougher undertaking than initial gut reaction would have us hope. For years now, she has been so impressive on camera that I now must confess I had little in-depth knowledge of her.

She's got her work cut out for her, assuming her intent to take this further.
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Old 10-11-2022, 01:25 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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Because none of her policy positions reflect the Democratic party. I don't know why someone who espouses rightwing policies and positions would pretend for so long to be a champion of the left.

No one in the Democratic party was ever fooled, though.
Hawaii is a deep Blue state.
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Old 10-11-2022, 01:34 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Compromise is good sometimes depending on the issue other times it is not. The left democrat position on gun control and their definition of compromise has been as far as discussion they talk and we listen, they take and we give. Even if they take some not as much as they wanted they still took and compromise on the pro 2nd amendment side is they still lost.

All of which is based on lies, banning semi auto weapons won't stop mass shooting, it won't stop crime, all of which the gun control people know, but gloss over because they have a agenda to sell.

As far as Gabbard I am willing to give her benefit of doubt to see if she has reassessed her position give know she apparently sees how the democrats are authoritarian. She did talk about that in the video.
I haven't seen much in the way of compromise on abortion, second amendment or election laws other than electoral college reforms. She is wrong on about every statement, the democrats are not the party of the far left relating to AOC and Sanders but they do have a voice. Still she was fairly moderate and could have remained to work towards moving the party to the right, her choice. A representative from Hawaii is rather insulated from many of the issues in the continental US.

To claim that democrats are authoritarian is laughable considering the actions with the supreme and the election.
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Old 10-11-2022, 01:35 PM
 
Location: USA
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She is a democrat, the Bill Clinton’s era democrat

Not the modern day Marxist- globalist -war -monger democrat
Yep, just like 1/2 my family. My parents were JFK anti Marxist Democrats. Being a Marxists like Patrisse Cullors, Alicia Garza, Richard Delgado, puts you at the highest rung of the Democrat Social Justice ladder these days
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Old 10-11-2022, 01:36 PM
 
Location: USA
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I'm hoping Sinema leaves next, and the Dems can have Warmonger Cheney
The party of what used to be open minded Democrats, has become and Orwellian Freak show
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Old 10-11-2022, 01:45 PM
 
Location: So Cal
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I'm hoping Sinema leaves next, and the Dems can have Warmonger Cheney
The party of what used to be open minded Democrats, has become and Orwellian Freak show
My FIL passed away about 7 or 8 years ago and he was a lifelong toe tag pro-union Democrat. I think he'd be surprised to see where the party is now.

They are the party of coastal elites, no doubt about it. Big Tech, big pharma, right down the line. I won't ever support them again until they go back more center. Get back to kitchen table issues and drop all of the silly social justice woke nonsense. Get much more realistic about Green energy as well.
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Old 10-11-2022, 01:49 PM
 
Location: NYC
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My FIL passed away about 7 or 8 years ago and he was a lifelong toe tag pro-union Democrat. I think he'd be surprised to see where the party is now.

They are the party of coastal elites, no doubt about it. Big Tech, big pharma, right down the line. I won't ever support them again until they go back more center. Get back to kitchen table issues and drop all of the silly social justice woke nonsense. Get much more realistic about Green energy as well.
Nah just stay on your fringe right. Biden is about as center as you can get and he only pays lip service to a lot of the "woke" stuff. Democrats didn't elect Bernie Sanders twice and yet still not center enough for you. Stop pretending you want to be in the center.
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Old 10-11-2022, 01:50 PM
 
Location: A Beautiful DEEP RED State
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She was the only Democrat left who I like and have any respect for.

I think she realizes the Democrat party left her behind when they took the bat **** crazy train.
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Old 10-11-2022, 01:52 PM
 
Location: So Cal
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Nah just stay on your fringe right. Biden is about as center as you can get and he only pays lip service to a lot of the "woke" stuff. Democrats didn't elect Bernie Sanders twice and yet still not center enough for you. Stop pretending you want to be in the center.
Biden is not center. He sold it that way though.
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Old 10-11-2022, 01:54 PM
 
Location: Inland Levy County, FL
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I didn’t like liking her due to the D by her name, so now I can be more comfortable with it. Lol I am not as partisan as most here but I also believe Dems are too extreme these days and really would not want to vote for one.
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