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View Poll Results: Why did the republicans red wave fail?
Trump republicans and their radical views 44 15.44%
Jan 6 failed coup attempt 2 0.70%
Election lies 24 8.42%
abortion rights 49 17.19%
all of the above 166 58.25%
Voters: 285. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-09-2022, 05:58 AM
 
Location: New Jersey and hating it
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In a functional democracy when you lose an election, you concede.
Conceding is just ceremonial and has no effect on who occupies the office. Trump denied the ‘20 election but yet everything went on as usual, i.e. Biden became president and Trump became a civilian.

BTW, the Democrats and half the country denied the 2016 election of Trump and spent 4 years obstructing and impeaching him but yet somehow that did not damage democracy.
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Old 11-09-2022, 05:59 AM
 
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Watching the news this morning I'm struck by the gracious concession speeches of Tim Ryan and Val Demings. Take note, this is how democracy is supposed to work.

I have never voted for a democrat. But that is interesting. I am pretty sure if Lake and or Masters in loses in Arizona they are not going to concede. They are going to demand recounts, file in court and make a big stink. They already filed in court yesterday trying to extend voting hours because of printing error. It was a sham filing but was done to lay the groundwork that they got cheated.
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Old 11-09-2022, 05:59 AM
 
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Which is what brought us Trump in the first place. He does hit back at the lies and manipulations of the media, and does it very well. Too bad he's otherwise such a d*ck as a person. Love his policies for the most part, don't like the man. Sadly that may be the type of person it takes to win these days, given the manipulation of the media. Look at the lies they pulled with the Pelosi attack, turning it into an "October Surprise".
He didn't win in 2016 because of his fighting back against the media.

He won in 2016 because he was a showman, an unknown. He seemed to be something different.

It wasn't because of his stance against the media. He had a love affair with Fox, Freitbart. That's no difference than the claims that the Democrat candidates love the liberal media and didn't like Fox.

Trump wasn't in it for the right reasons. Sure a strong ego is important. But it can't be the mainr eason you seek the office. You have to truly want to serve the people. Trump didn't want to serve us...he wanted to rule us.
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Old 11-09-2022, 06:03 AM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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I would argue the same with Democrats.
Democrats have never been accused of Russian collusion just for winning an election.
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I do think to the idea that a 'name' can win an election has taken over. Walker thought he was a shoe in because he was a good football player. The RNC and his people ignored he had a history of questionable behavior.
Name recognition is the only reason Biden is president. No one knew who he was before Obama picked him. Hershel Walker and Dr Oz are clowns, that's their own fault. It's no different than the Dems ignoring Kamala's history of "climbing the political ladder on her back" and picking her based on color and gender.
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Old 11-09-2022, 06:04 AM
 
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In a functional democracy, when you lose an election you concede.
In a functional democracy the President isn’t suffering late stage dementia, doesn’t get lost, and can formulate good national policy. This one can’t formulate a coherent sentence.

Today, the good people of Pennsylvania have a Senator who is about the same.

That is DYSFUNCTIONAL.
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Old 11-09-2022, 06:04 AM
 
Location: New Jersey and hating it
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He didn't win in 2016 because of his fighting back against the media.

He won in 2016 because he was a showman, an unknown. He seemed to be something different.

It wasn't because of his stance against the media. He had a love affair with Fox, Freitbart. That's no difference than the claims that the Democrat candidates love the liberal media and didn't like Fox.

Trump wasn't in it for the right reasons. Sure a strong ego is important. But it can't be the mainr eason you seek the office. You have to truly want to serve the people. Trump didn't want to serve us...he wanted to rule us.
Using the same argument you Leftists claimed about the GOP now, Trump won because the candidate the Democrats rolled out (Hillary) was terrible and was just unlike-able.

And funny how you say Trump wants to rule us when your Biden is the one forcing mandates on the country , while Trump actually removed them (e.g. the individual mandate on tax returns). Who is really the tyrant? (Hint: it isn’t Trump)
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Old 11-09-2022, 06:05 AM
 
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Democrats have never been accused of Russian collusion just for winning an election.

Name recognition is the only reason Biden is president. No one knew who he was president before Obama picked him. Hershel Walker and Dr Oz are clowns, that's their own fault. It's no different than the Dems ignoring Kamala's history of "climbing the political ladder on her back" and picking her based on color and gender.

The Clintons have been accused of all kinds of things.

Move here in 1997 to Georgia and it was a deluge of stories and conspiracies and other accusations.

Trump was at an average approval of 41% in January of 2021 before the pandemic impacted the economy. He did not have a clear path to victory in 2020.
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Old 11-09-2022, 06:06 AM
 
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Using the same argument you Leftists claimed about the GOP now, Trump won because the candidate the Democrats rolled out (Hillary) was terrible and was just unlike-able.
And….
That about sums it up.
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Old 11-09-2022, 06:06 AM
 
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We just need to close the borders
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Old 11-09-2022, 06:07 AM
 
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The GOP lost because many republican candidates still publicly support Trump. Also, their hard stance on abortion aided their downfall. I hate abortion too, but to force a raped woman to carry and deliver??... or a mother whose life is in danger??.... hell no!

I'm more angry at the GOP than I am at the democrat voters. The GOP purposely threw this election away. They didn't want to win, so they insured their loss.
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