Sexuality vs. Spirituality in the classroom (dollars, propaganda, implant, California)

[newtovenice]

Originally Posted by TMSRetired

You need to stop already.

WHO changed transgenderism from a mental health issue to a normal sexual behaviour in 2019.

Why? Where did the change come from? What industry was pushing for this change? Why are schools and libraries and bars heel bent on a relentless pursuit that kids know aaaaaaalllllllll about LGBTQ ?

Those are the questions you need to ask yourself.

What caused the *sudden* change by the WHO ... why are 20% of young people NOW declaring themselves LGBTQ? And why are transgender clinics popping up all over the country?

Surgeries are about $70,000. Lifelong drug treatment averages about $1.5 million in today's dollars. Business is booming.

Stop what? Pointing out the insanity around us?

The Emperor has no clothes. Stop telling people that he does.

[notnamed]

Originally Posted by newtovenice

False. Indoctrination works. You have to target children. Whose minds are malleable. Who don't understand their sexual feelings.

It's happening right now.

No one is "afraid"of LGBTQ people.

Leave the kids ALONE. Why is that such a terrifying idea to LGBTQ? Why can't they leave the kids alone? It's like pathologic OCD. They can't help themselves. Must have drag queen story hour. Must have Twerk fest for kids. Must have 4 year olds playing gender identify games. Must have 6 year olds participate in PRIDE parades. Must give 8 year olds worksheets to fill out. Must have gay after school clubs for 12 year olds.

It's relentless. If you want people to believe that LGBTQ is NOT going after the children? Then stop all the behaviors that are the very definition of going after the children.

LGBT adults know exactly what it is like to be a LGBT youth. They lived it. People can know their orientation at very young ages and there’s nothing sexually explicit about how that gets expressed as childhood crushes and the like. Growing up being bullied for it by other children and adults alike. Our society has had such strict gender stereotypes that even a boy who sits with his legs crossed can be shamed. The message they want conveyed is that it is OK and “it gets better”.

Unless you don’t think it is OK, what is the problem with that?

[VA Yankee]

Originally Posted by newtovenice

I am not condemning the kids.

I am condemning the idiots who are actively destroying the kids.

The kids are collateral damage. Literally.

Leave them ALONE.

Then I guess parents will have to lose their rights according to what your posting.....

[TMSRetired]

Originally Posted by newtovenice

Why? Where did the change come from? What industry was pushing for this change? Why are schools and libraries and bars heel bent on a relentless pursuit that kids know aaaaaaalllllllll about LGBTQ ?

Those are the questions you need to ask yourself.

What caused the *sudden* change by the WHO ... why are 20% of young people NOW declaring themselves LGBTQ? And why are transgender clinics popping up all over the country?

Surgeries are about $70,000. Lifelong drug treatment averages about $1.5 million in today's dollars. Business is booming.

Stop what? Pointing out the insanity around us?

The Emperor has no clothes. Stop telling people that he does.

Stop saying it's a mental illness even if you believe it.
Because as of 2019 it's no longer a mental illness.

[MissTerri]

Originally Posted by VA Yankee

The number 1 example that is making the rounds. The first person makes no mention where they're from but statistics from the UK are in the next paragraph so are they a Brit? There laws are different than our.

In fact none of the examples except 1 identify as American and no mention of surgeries on minors is mentioned in this country only the UK included the quoted physician who resigned from their NHS.

Chloe Cole lives in California.

[Leo58]

Originally Posted by newtovenice

If a church did what public schools are doing, people like you would be in an UPROAR. If a priest dressed in loincloths was bouncing his twerking hiney to hymns in a Sunday school classroom full of 3rd graders you and others like you would be calling for him to be burned at the stake. And rightly so.

Twerking his hiney would be kind of weird, but it’s not going to turn any kid gay. I’d suggest he have a little more dignity, but wouldn’t want him burned at the stake.

Now, if that priest gets a kid alone and uses his powerful position to touch the kid for his own sexual pleasure, that is what is wrong and should be punished. Can you seriously not see the difference?

[L8Gr8Apost8]

Originally Posted by Retroit

Liberals support the sexual indoctrination of students, allowing pornographic books and rainbow flags in schools, drag queen story hour, and field trips to drag queen shows.

Would those same liberals allow religious education in schools, religious books, crosses on the wall, priests and nun story hour, and field trips to churches?

Why should a transgender student have affirming support, but not a Christian child?

Send your kids to a Christian school.

[McGowdog]

Originally Posted by TMSRetired

You need to stop already.

WHO changed transgenderism from a mental health issue to a normal sexual behaviour in 2019.

I don't accept WHO to be reputable. In fact, quite the contrary.

In fact, I might be more inclined to believe the direct opposite they say, depending on the content.

I don't consider WHO to be qualified to say anything on the matter, so I'll just set their statement aside.

Let's look at the claim. Transgenderism? I'm no transgenerologist myself. I'm not even sure what the word means. I'm still confused on what I and H and + mean.

Why so many letters? Seriously?

I can fathom what gay means. Lesbians are gay women, right? What are gay men? Just gay? I can fathom what bisexual means. I have no idea what Q means, nor its purpose. Transsexual, transgender, transdresser? I think I can fathom what a transdresser is. But, maybe I don't.

Gender fluid, non-binary, drag queen, I know little about this stuff and I don't see it. It's not really in my consciousness. It's not in my realm.

I suppose I should be willing to learn about it. But, if it's used for political gain or fiscal purposes, we're going to have to come to terms on what's fair and what is not. What are the legal ramifications of all of this? I would like to know what percentage of Gay Rights Activists, if you will, are on board with this growing social evolution.

What is the end game? Do we want males competing with females in sports? No for me. My definition of what a male and a female is may differ from others. What do we do about that?

I don't think we can begin to help the children out until we come to a decision on some things. Anyway, we've taken something already complicated enough and really thrown it into a blender.

Originally Posted by newtovenice

Then why the push to get LGBTQ education into every single elementary school classroom? Why do teachers make students identify their 'gender' and 'sexuality' in class?

That's the one. That's the one I want proof of.

I want you to show me/us actual stats on this.

How many teachers in how many classrooms is this being done?

Are they doing this in Cheyenne Wells, Colorado schools? How about in Meeker Colorado schools?


How do we/you find this out and what are the stats?

I personally know a few teachers in Colorado schools right now. Some are family members. They would blow a headgasket if they saw this, so it couldn't be happening in their schools.

Originally Posted by moneill

...It is true there are rare occasionas were kids usually around 16, that have been allowed to have some hormonal changes or some physical surgery. I think it shouldn't be allowed. But I do think those kids should be getting gender affirming care via therapy, etc....


THere are major concerns with the normalizaiton of LGBTQ issues, but the over the top paranoia of indoctrinating kids en masse, kids being physically manipulated at early ages, forced to be something they 'shouldn't be...are highly overstated.

And this concept that the LGBTQ community are a danger to our youth is also oveerstated. Our kids are at risk from just us heteros more than any other group.

Some points to ponder in here.

They may be overstated. But I want to see for myself, what the stats are. I would like to make better sense of this so I can come to terms and think "rightly", at least in my own mind, what's going on it society about me. I'm not a parent, so not so drastic for me. But I am an uncle, a co-worker, etc.

Originally Posted by newtovenice

gender affirming therapy only allows the idea that the child is the opposite sex.

Well this must not be a football game or I could move the goalpost from you with the word "non-binary", for "opposite" implies just two choices... one or zero, zero or one type of thing.

Originally Posted by newtovenice

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There is no therapy. There is only AFFIRMATION. Just like you tell the doctor you have bread cancer and he sets you up for all the treatment. No testing. No examination. No due diligence. Nothing. Just Believe....

But not ONE professional ever bothered to ASK. They just congratulated them on how brave they are for being trans and shoved them into the drugs and surgeries.

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You're really kind of stuck on this Affirmation thing, aren't you? That's kind of a spooky world to live in.

Originally Posted by newtovenice

As is the evidence AGAINST transitioning kids. It's being ignored. 80% of kids grow out of transgender ideology if left alone.

So why aren't kids being left alone?

Why this terror that they could .. GASP .. grow out of it?? Why the absolute, get them into affirmation IMMEDIATELY!!!! Start the drugs ASAP!!!! Before they grow out of it!!!!!

I would hope this could be true in many cases.

But to be skeptical of all medical diagnosis just for the sake of skepticism seems a dangerous place to stand. This may not be what you're saying. Some skepticism must surely be good and in my opinion, should weigh in to this discussion on this thread...

so thank you for the other side of the coin here.

Originally Posted by VA Yankee

It is highly doubtful in this country that a doctor would start treatment for Breast (not bread) Cancer without tests to identify and determine the best course of action based on what you have. The same with a child who identifies ....right..

And there are both sides of the coin.

The one side of the coin would perhaps imply the field of medicine might be driven by the Almighty Dollar.

Let's look at Pharms, from a financial aspect. How they doing lately? How many 10s and 100s of billions of dollars are they making these days?

[VA Yankee]

Originally Posted by MissTerri

Chloe Cole lives in California.

I see that thanks, I also see that she has a pending lawsuit against the healthcare system so that's a good explanation why we see her telling her story to anyone that will listen.

[MissTerri]

Originally Posted by VA Yankee

I see that thanks, I also see that she has a pending lawsuit against the healthcare system so that's a good explanation why we see her telling her story to anyone that will listen.

Yeah because they ruined her life by transitioning her when she was so young.