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So you'll have to expand on how the two are contradictory.
Pretty sure any reasonably informed person would know of both.
Anyway:
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Originally Posted by Exodus 20.3
Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
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Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;
1st Commandment: Believe in Jehovah, or else! ("I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me".)
1st amendment: You're free to worship whom you wish.
Bit of a conundrum for those claiming US law is based in religion.
Yes, I know that. People condemn things they don't understand but it doesn't stop people from being who they are. Here we are though in 2022 still harboring thoughts that they are abnormal and teaching our kids that. We would have much less prejudice and violence if people would just accept everyone and teach their kids to do the same.
Just because people think it's abnormal doesn't mean they don't understand it.
It's just something they find to be repulsive on a very base level.
Most hetero men will never see the sight of two men kissing as normal, no matter how much societal norms change towards acceptance of same sex relationships.
Being repulsed by it is almost an involuntary reaction, like someone who can't stand the sight of blood, etc.
Pretty sure any reasonably informed person would know of both.
Anyway:
1st Commandment: Believe in Jehovah, or else! ("I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me".)
1st amendment: You're free to worship whom you wish.
Bit of a conundrum for those claiming US law is based in religion.
I'm familiar with both.
But all Gods say pretty much the same thing, do they not?
The 1st amendment doesn't tell you which one iof them to listen to.....
So, laws just use religious concepts in general as the blueprint for society. Not necessarily Christian, because many religions have similar rules to live by.
it's been 26 hours now. When are they waking Biden up to sign it?
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You sound excited to get 'er done.
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nahh, we were just promised this was critically-important and time-sensitive, and he'd sign it ASAP they passed it. Remember what he said on the campaign trail about codifying Roe?
I'm assuming it's dinner time and then off to bed now, on a Friday in DC for the Big Guy. Maybe tomorrow.
They've found time tomorrow to rush his signature as promised. Well, I don't know if they've actually set a time, but the latest claims are that he'll put his signature on it tomorrow. Moving at the speed of government
Who cares? Live and let live. I am middle of the road mainly when it comes to politics, but generally align with the values/beliefs held by those on the right. However, I also believe people should be able to decide what's best for them whether it's abortion, vaccines, who they choose for a partner, etc. without others telling them what they should or shouldn't do. Same sex marriages don't affect me and they don't affect you so why make a big deal over something that has no impact on you other than not aligning with your beliefs?
(Personally I think the word is tremendously overused, and this only makes it lose it's meaning)
If people are hard wired to have aversion to it on an instinctual level....how does that constitute "hate"?
Fair enough. It just seems that some people are very passionately anti-gay, transcending mere aversion. Admittedly, that conclusion is based on nothing but conjecture on my part.
Fair enough. It just seems that some people are very passionately anti-gay, transcending mere aversion. Admittedly, that conclusion is based on nothing but conjecture on my part.
read your own post again, and ponder how you arrived at the conclusion.
However, there are indeed some passionate proclaimed evangelical people who believe homosexuality is a sin that they are called by their faith to intervene in. They're not that hard to find, but they're a very small % of people. There's an even smaller subset of them that believe a physical "intervention", be that conversion therapy or some other non-violent action. I haven't seen calls for jailing, assaulting, etc. But I don't go down most rabbit-holes of extremism.
Who cares? Live and let live. I am middle of the road mainly when it comes to politics, but generally align with the values/beliefs held by those on the right. However, I also believe people should be able to decide what's best for them whether it's abortion, vaccines, who they choose for a partner, etc. without others telling them what they should or shouldn't do. Same sex marriages don't affect me and they don't affect you so why make a big deal over something that has no impact on you other than not aligning with your beliefs?
Exactly.
BUT.........too many people seem to forget that live and let live is a two way street.
Fair enough. It just seems that some people are very passionately anti-gay, transcending mere aversion. Admittedly, that conclusion is based on nothing but conjecture on my part.
I can agree with that.
But I think a lot of it has to do with increased public pressure towards acceptance of something that their very guts tell them is not normal.
"Any action will have an equal and opposite reaction".
BUT.........too many people seem to forget that live and let live is a two way street.
Yeah, and you can feel free to not get gay married, be trans, or get abortions. Go right ahead.
Everyone always lets the social conservatives live, and have their freedom of their religious beliefs and to live their life the way they choose. But the social conservatives don't want to let other people do the same.
At some point in our country's history, 'freedom of religion' went from its original meaning, to the opposite.
'Freedom of religion' is supposed to mean that you get to be religious in this country, if that's your prerogative. Whatever religion, or interpretation you want, and you can live your life the way you want, and the government will not interfere with your worship, and there will never be any state-sanctioned religion.
It doesn't mean that you get to tell other people (many of whom are not religious, or have different beliefs), that they can't get married, or they can't get an abortion, because of your own religious beliefs. Even in the so-called red states (which are only 'red' because a slight majority might vote Republican). That's still a whole lot of people, who don't think like you. So leave them alone to live their lives in peace and dignity and respect, if that's what you expect for yours. Not a difficult concept.
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