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Old 09-30-2018, 09:48 AM
 
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Yeah I know what the law is, I'm pointing out the hypocrisy and inconsistency.
Its amazing to me, the people allowed age restrictions to be created in the first place, Govt has no right to create or enforce, yet most people seem to think they are a good thing?
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Old 10-01-2018, 01:19 AM
 
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It would be more effective to put limits on how much tobacco you can buy per day, plus they could make it mandatory for stores to record driver license info on everyone buying tobacco. Similar restrictions are in place for over the counter pills containing Ephedrine, a person can only buy one 6 ct pill package per day. We have to write down their info on a registry and turn it in monthly.

They started this due to people buying tons of Ephedrine to make meth, it has worked for the most part.

Our state also has KASPER system for prescription drugs, they keep track of people and the drugs they get filled, they are shared with all pharmacies, it was put in place to prevent people from going doctor shopping or filling numerous scripts for opiates...again, this seems to work too, if the pharmacy runs a check, and sees someone has already had their script filled, they refuse to give them more and also call police.

If health and safety are really that much of concern, as it appears to be, why not implement something similar for tobacco products?

Why should tobacco be exempt when other 'dangerous' products/drugs, are so heavily regulated and restricted?
How would these limits work? I know there's limits on how much alcohol you can buy per transaction in many states but the limit is fairly high and nothing prevents you from doing multiple transactions.
I don't see how they could come up with a number that really decreases the average smokers usual daily use. I guess they could limit the number of cartons under some language that would imply that you're selling them.
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Old 10-01-2018, 08:07 AM
 
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The public needs to stop shoving their communism down our throats.
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Old 10-01-2018, 08:12 AM
 
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How would these limits work? I know there's limits on how much alcohol you can buy per transaction in many states but the limit is fairly high and nothing prevents you from doing multiple transactions.
I don't see how they could come up with a number that really decreases the average smokers usual daily use. I guess they could limit the number of cartons under some language that would imply that you're selling them.
I will use Ephedrine pills as an example, (mini thins, diet, energy pills, sold at gas stations), used to be, you could buy as many as you liked every day, they changed this about 12 yrs ago, now, its restricted to one package per day, per person, they have to show ID and the cashier has to record their info on a registry, these are provided by DEA in our stores. We have to turn them in monthly. The cashier also has to check the registry when someone is buying a pack, to make sure they havent been in already that day.

This was done because people were buying numerous packs and using them to make meth. It has been pretty effective, the people that used it to make meth know we do this now, so we dont get many buying those pills anymore, I guess they have probably go online to buy in bulk now.
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Old 10-01-2018, 08:46 AM
 
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I will use Ephedrine pills as an example, (mini thins, diet, energy pills, sold at gas stations), used to be, you could buy as many as you liked every day, they changed this about 12 yrs ago, now, its restricted to one package per day, per person, they have to show ID and the cashier has to record their info on a registry, these are provided by DEA in our stores. We have to turn them in monthly. The cashier also has to check the registry when someone is buying a pack, to make sure they havent been in already that day.

This was done because people were buying numerous packs and using them to make meth. It has been pretty effective, the people that used it to make meth know we do this now, so we dont get many buying those pills anymore, I guess they have probably go online to buy in bulk now.
It didn't do squat to lower the production/sale of meth, all it did was inconvenience the consumer who has a family that's passing the cold/flu from one member to another. It DID make people feel better (at the time) that something was being done no matter how useless that "something" was.
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Old 10-01-2018, 08:51 AM
 
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Disgusting is a little strong I think considering 70% of the adult population used to smoke.
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Old 10-01-2018, 09:06 AM
 
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Disgusting is a little strong I think considering 70% of the adult population used to smoke.

What? Whether it’s 1% or 100% smoking is digusting. I have no idea what you are trying to say.
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Old 10-01-2018, 09:09 AM
 
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It didn't do squat to lower the production/sale of meth, all it did was inconvenience the consumer who has a family that's passing the cold/flu from one member to another. It DID make people feel better (at the time) that something was being done no matter how useless that "something" was.
You are right, it didnt decrease the amount of meth being made or sold, BUT it shows that Govt targets ACCESS to products that are causing health problem or dangerous in some way. They did the same thing with opioid prescription drugs like I mentioned above, they made it tough for addicts to obtain them, it may not have solved any problems (it just pushed all the pill poppers to heroin), but it WAS govt restricting ACCESS to a harmful product....something they have NOT done with tobacco.

I guess the manufacturers of Ephedrine pills could not afford to 'pay off' the right people, to ensure their dangerous products remain easy to obtain.
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Old 10-01-2018, 11:22 AM
 
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The public needs to stop shoving their communism down our throats.
I assume when you say "The public" you mean people who wish to NOT to be forced to breathe your tobacco effluent (imagine that, NOT wanting to be assaulted with a toxic, noxious, malodorous, cancer-causing substance is now considered "communism" in the minds of the smoker-pigs).

Do you find laws against drinking in public "communistic"???

Do you find laws against public nudity "communistic"???

Do you find laws against copulating in public "communistic"???

As I have said many times before, "Smoker-pigs, keep you filthy stench to your filthy stinking selves - or else!!!!"
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Old 10-01-2018, 11:31 AM
 
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What? Whether it’s 1% or 100% smoking is digusting. I have no idea what you are trying to say.
I suspect he is trying to justify spewing his tobacco-effluent into the public's breathing air, thereby rendering it fit only for smoker-pigs to breathe.
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