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Old 12-02-2008, 05:52 PM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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How much does the average pack cost? 5 bucks a pack?
I pay about 65 cents per pack.

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I am a non smoker who has a right to patronize your bar without breathing in second hand smoke.
Prove it.
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Old 12-02-2008, 06:02 PM
 
Location: Largo, Fl
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I used to work for the postal service!! They actually had a sign in the restrooms asking people not to wear heavy perfumes or colognes, because other people were complaining about it!! Can You imagine that??
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Old 12-02-2008, 06:39 PM
 
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I don't smoke but its up to the owner. i can always find a non-smoking bar;no big thing IMO.
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Old 12-02-2008, 06:46 PM
 
Location: Denver
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I'm sympathetic to the idea that if you enter a place of business, you're voluntarily consenting to certain risks (including health risks), but I don't see smoking bans as any broad new government action.

Dogs aren't allowed in bars or other places that serve food. How in the world are dogs worse than smoke? Further, the government regulates what can be in the food, what can be in the alcohol, when the businesses operate, and how much people can be served.

Regulating what's in the air is hardly a bold new intervention of government.

If you want to roll all of those regulations back, I'm with you. For that matter, I want to deregulate gambling, legalize prostitution, and end the war on drugs. But then again, I have weird ideas.
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Old 12-02-2008, 06:48 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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I am a non smoker who has a right to patronize your bar without breathing in second hand smoke. Smokers can go outside.
And, if I don't want non smokers in my bar? Then what?
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Old 12-02-2008, 06:51 PM
 
Location: Denver
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And, if I don't want non smokers in my bar? Then what?
Well that sounds like an extremely foolish business decision.
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Old 12-02-2008, 06:53 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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Well that sounds like an extremely foolish business decision.
Regardless - its my business.

I'm reminded of a casino that went "non-smoking".

They went out of business
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Old 12-02-2008, 06:53 PM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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Well that sounds like an extremely foolish business decision.
Shouldn't it be his to make?
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Old 12-02-2008, 06:58 PM
 
Location: Denver
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Shouldn't it be his to make?
I'm not saying it shouldn't, but to be consistent, shouldn't other health code regulations be optional? What about dogs in restaurants -- shouldn't that be the business owners to make?

For decades the government has regulated everything from operating hours (bars in Colorado close at 2am) to food preparation methods to whether customers have to wear shoes. The only thing that makes a smoking ban different is that it simply upsets more people.
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Old 12-02-2008, 07:02 PM
 
Location: Denver
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To summarize my argument, how come you can smoke in bars but I can't have a friendly game of poker?
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