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Old 12-27-2008, 12:31 PM
 
Location: Pa
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Originally Posted by BigJon3475 View Post
And we performed a holocaust on the Indians..... Trail of tears.... If we want to hold grudges you should just start killing everyone around you. *NOT SERIOUS*
I am not saying that at all. But Israels actions are far from peace loving olive branch actions. For every peace offering is a loaded gun aimed at the other party saying take it or leave it. Israel also has that history of going back on their promises. Yes much like we did to the indians 100 years ago. The difference is today the world does not agree with such methods. 100 years ago it was SOP.

 
Old 12-27-2008, 12:33 PM
 
Location: Illinois
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by the way, this doesn't hve anything to do with religion. Some of the most patriotic Palestinians are Christians, and the most part of Israelis consider themselves secular folks. It's about land and water.
when you say this is not about religion? i right away think , you are right. People who think they are Frogs,may injoy swimming and insects, but do not kill their neighbors for fun if they are real frogs. That would be a FREAKY FUMMING FIGHTING FROG CULT.....
 
Old 12-27-2008, 12:37 PM
 
Location: Illinois
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I am not saying that at all. But Israels actions are far from peace loving olive branch actions. For every peace offering is a loaded gun aimed at the other party saying take it or leave it. Israel also has that history of going back on their promises. Yes much like we did to the indians 100 years ago. The difference is today the world does not agree with such methods. 100 years ago it was SOP.
i have met good and bad in every family, every country...but when the bad are in charge and take over ..........it becomes real hard to send your kids out door to door selling cookies.....
 
Old 12-27-2008, 12:46 PM
 
Location: New York City
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How many videos of palestinian children declaring their hatred for the US and Israel and their intention to continue the struggle do you have to witness? The palestinians celebrated the attacks on 9/11, dancing in the streets. I have no sympathy for the self-inflicted position they are in.
Jesus Christ, because a few Palestinians from one refugee camp in Lebanon celebrated 9/11, you mean to tell me that you're going to say every Palestinian in the world celebrated? What kind of logic is that? That's like saying Jeffrey Dahmer was a bad white man, therefore every white man is bad.
 
Old 12-27-2008, 12:50 PM
 
Location: Illinois
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I am not saying that at all. But Israels actions are far from peace loving olive branch actions. For every peace offering is a loaded gun aimed at the other party saying take it or leave it. Israel also has that history of going back on their promises. Yes much like we did to the indians 100 years ago. The difference is today the world does not agree with such methods. 100 years ago it was SOP.
some indians got screwed , i get it, and some enjoyed europian meat...and european weman, and by force. You were not there and you don't seem to realize some were good some were bad some were rich some poor. It was and is not that simple......some europeans were jerks and got thAT from the Vilings who learned it from cain and abel who got IT FROM THEIR WEAK FATHER AND REBELLIUOS MOTHER WHO GOT IT FROM A ROTTEN APPLE WHEN SHE BELIEVED A LIE. AND THATS WHAT HAPPENS TODAY. LIES ,REBELLION,MURDER,LOAD AND FIRE AT WILL .........
 
Old 12-27-2008, 12:53 PM
 
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If you want to talk about suicide bombers, then start a thread. I never advocated suicide bombings BTW.

Why can't you and your ilk just admit to the fact that what Israel did is wrong? Why is it so one sided with you people? Can't you support the state of Isreal and still be against some of her practices? Do you advocate air raiding a village at the end of the school day because a member of Hamas might be there? Would you advocate air raiding your street if there were a criminal living there? Can you see the evilness of this act? To some people it's just a news story, but you forget that these are innocent civilians. It's depressing...

Who are my "ilk"? You should actually think and pay attention rather than so quickly wishing to box people up and put them in your stereotype piles.

I don't advocate for either side, but the beginning posts on here were very much denouncing one side while failing to point out the actions from the other side that bring this kind of result.

Launching rockets and sending suicide bombers into civilian areas, and then hiding in civilian areas and using hospitals and schools as shields is pretty low. Israel did pretty good from most reports I've read so far, getting around 150 Hamas members in their attacks. The collateral damage is very sad, and very disturbing. But I am willing to bet that if Hamas was more careful in attacking only Israeli military forces, then Israel would be a little more selective in their attacks. Of course, if Israel wasn't so large and powerful, Hamas would likely not resort to such measures. Its just a completely screwed up situation IMO.
 
Old 12-27-2008, 12:57 PM
 
Location: Pa
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some indians got screwed , i get it, and some enjoyed europian meat...and european weman, and by force. You were not there and you don't seem to realize some were good some were bad some were rich some poor. It was and is not that simple......some europeans were jerks and got thAT from the Vilings who learned it from cain and abel who got IT FROM THEIR WEAK FATHER AND REBELLIUOS MOTHER WHO GOT IT FROM A ROTTEN APPLE WHEN SHE BELIEVED A LIE. AND THATS WHAT HAPPENS TODAY. LIES ,REBELLION,MURDER,LOAD AND FIRE AT WILL .........
????? No clue what your point is.
Mine was comparing what we did to the Indians 100 years ago to what Israel does today is not reasonable because the world has moved on. At least I would hope so. The fact that world as a whole tends to condemn Israels actions far more often than supports them would support my idea.
 
Old 12-27-2008, 01:00 PM
 
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Who are my "ilk"? You should actually think and pay attention rather than so quickly wishing to box people up and put them in your stereotype piles.

I don't advocate for either side, but the beginning posts on here were very much denouncing one side while failing to point out the actions from the other side that bring this kind of result.

Launching rockets and sending suicide bombers into civilian areas, and then hiding in civilian areas and using hospitals and schools as shields is pretty low. Israel did pretty good from most reports I've read so far, getting around 150 Hamas members in their attacks. The collateral damage is very sad, and very disturbing. But I am willing to bet that if Hamas was more careful in attacking only Israeli military forces, then Israel would be a little more selective in their attacks. Of course, if Israel wasn't so large and powerful, Hamas would likely not resort to such measures. Its just a completely screwed up situation IMO.
Actually Hamas is using the same tired old playbook terrorists have used for years. Target civilians. They don't fight back. Prey upon the weak poorly educated the desperate. They are gullable and will believe anything. No different than what the militants in Iraq are doing against each other.
 
Old 12-27-2008, 01:21 PM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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Oh good lord... You mean the jihad that the Muslims have been waging on Israel for the past 60 years?

One huge difference: Israeli's have lived in luxury, Palestinians have lived in dire poverty in prison like conditions.

The Palestinian people have been denied their very dignity. The Israeli's have not been denied anything.
 
Old 12-27-2008, 01:29 PM
 
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There is 1.5 million people in an area only twice as big as DC. Israel is the same size as NJ with 7.3 million.

How do you think the socialist government of Israel has denied dignity to anyone that didn't want them utterly destroyed?
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