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Old 02-12-2009, 11:25 AM
 
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no you can't take any job legally unless you use your real legal name!
you can legally change your name. My husband did in college.

 
Old 02-12-2009, 11:32 AM
 
Location: Texas
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I'm hoping when Obama fails miserably (and he will) the media will finally vet him and prove he is the fraud he is. Obama is a fraud and usurper holding the most powerful position on Earth. He must be removed. He will destroy America. Sadly, the loony left-wing dumbocrats have no clue what is happening right before their eyes.

What I see is a bunch of bitter hardcore radical whackadoodles who are so mad they could spit.
 
Old 02-12-2009, 11:38 AM
 
Location: Moose Jaw, in between the Moose's butt and nose.
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There is a biography of Barry Soetoro's Occidental College days. It states that when Barry Soetoro was 18-19 he attended school as BARRY SOETORO. And it wasn't until he met a girl by the name of REGINA that was the first to start calling him Barack. See:Obama at Occidental College « Abagond

The importance of this is that it clearly shows that Barry was using his Indonesian name, and of course, his Indonesian passport.

The International Herald Tribute (The Global issue of the New York Times)

also states:

http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/02/...rica/obama.php

"Nearly three decades ago, Barack Obama stood out on the small campus of Occidental College in Los Angeles for his eloquence, intellect and activism against apartheid in South Africa. But Obama, then known as Barry, also joined in the party scene."


The LA Times also claims below that Barry was the choice of names that Barry Soetoro used when he first arrived from Hawaii to Occidental:

Occidental recalls 'Barry' Obama - Los Angeles Times

"Memories of 1980 at Occidental College’s Haines Hall have the standard fragments of the era: stereos blasting the B-52’s through the dorm, pot-fueled bull sessions about the revival of draft registration, late-night cramming for economics exams.

"That otherwise private nostalgia took on public significance this month when a former Haines Hall resident from Hawaii known at the time as Barry announced that he was forming an exploratory committee to run for president of the United States.
"

Even Occidental College states that Newsweek reported that Barry entered their college as BARRY SOETORO under his Indonesian passport and NOT as Barack Obama.

Occidental College :: Barack Obama '83 Elected President (http://www.oxy.edu/x8270.xml - broken link)

It was at Occidental where he stopped being called “Barry” and became Barack Obama, Newsweek pointed out in its account of Obama’s formative years that featured his black-and-white freshman photo on the cover. “It was when I made a conscious decision: I want to grow up,” he told the magazine.

One of Barry Soetoro's college buddies says this of our Indonesian student:

http://www.verdugomonthly.com/articl...82&IssueNum=32

"Tom Moyes remembers the first time he heard the name Barack Obama. It was in the fall of 2004, after the electrifying speech Obama delivered at the 2004 Democratic Convention. That was the oration, of course, which introduced the young would-be Illinois Senator to America and inspired an instant following not only in the U.S. but around the world. Moyes had missed the speech because he was on an extended vacation in New Zealand at the time. “So I pick up this newspaper,” says Moyes, who grew up in San Gabriel and graduated from Occidental College in Eagle Rock, “and it has this huge article about this guy Barack Obama. And it says he had gone to Occidental at the same time I was there. And I said to myself, ‘There’s no way.’ I’d never heard the name Barack; I’m thinking it must be a mistake. “So I call a friend I went to Oxy with, Ken Sulzer, and I say, ‘Ken, I’m down here in New Zealand and there’s this article about some guy named Barack that went to college with us. Who is that?!’” “I said, ‘That’s Barry, man,’” says Sulzer, using the nickname Obama went by during his youth, “the guy with the big afro who lived across the hall from me in the dorm.’

It is clear that the students at Occidental did not know Barry Soetoro by the name of OBAMA. Instead he was using his Indonesian name and passport. This story cleverly hides the fact that the confusion came not from the first name Barry or Barack, but because of the LAST NAME Soetoro vs. Obama.

Okay so why did Barry suddenly change his name from Barry Soetoro to Barack Obama a year after he entered school? (I don't believe that REGINA story above.) It was simple. His mother and adopted dad got divorced in August of 1980. So naturally, when he entered Occidental in 1979 he used his Indonesian name...then immediately after his mom's divorce he desired to revert back to his birth name of Barack Obama.

See divorce records at: http://decalogosintl.org/documents/Soetoro_Divorce.pdf

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Old 02-12-2009, 12:07 PM
 
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I don't see what difference it makes that he went by another name, unless he was committiing identity theft or committed crimes under another name, and there is no evidence of either of those. He was elected and is now President What's His Name.
 
Old 02-12-2009, 01:10 PM
 
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[quote=TRUEGRITT;7215894]There is a biography of Barry Soetoro's Occidental College days. It states that when Barry Soetoro was 18-19 he attended school as BARRY SOETORO. And it wasn't until he met a girl by the name of REGINA that was the first to start calling him Barack. See:Obama at Occidental College « Abagond[quote]

NOWHERE does it state that he attended school under the name of Soetoro. It states that he went by a diminutive of his name, Barry for Barack. It's possible that William Clinton went by Bill during his college days, too. I wonder if George Bush had any nicknames. I've heard interviews where Ronald Reagan was referred to as Ronny. And Gerald Ford was called Jerry. James Carter went by Jimmy. And now we know that Barack Obama went by Barry.

[quote]The importance of this is that it clearly shows that Barry was using his Indonesian name, and of course, his Indonesian passport.[quote]

It clearly shows...nothing, except that as a youngster and a young man that people shortened his name to a familiar diminutive.

Your second link, also shows he used Barry. It says nothing about the name "Soetoro".

Third link, more of the same. Fourth link, more of the same. All of your links do NOT say anything about Barack Obama using the last name of Soetoro. If Ronald Reagan can go by Ron or Ronny, I would think Barack Obama could have friends call him Barry.
 
Old 02-12-2009, 01:13 PM
 
Location: Mountain Home, ID
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Well, shucks. Since my brother went by a shortened form of his middle name for the first 20 years of his life, I guess this all means he's not eligible to be President. Sorry bro.
 
Old 02-12-2009, 01:48 PM
 
Location: Chicago - West Lakeview
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I'm hoping when Obama fails miserably (and he will) the media will finally vet him and prove he is the fraud he is. Obama is a fraud and usurper holding the most powerful position on Earth. He must be removed. He will destroy America. Sadly, the loony left-wing dumbocrats have no clue what is happening right before their eyes.

Hmmm, when people said things like this about Bush, they were called traitors by the right-wing nuts. Does this mean you are now a traitor?
 
Old 02-12-2009, 03:01 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Hmmm, when people said things like this about Bush, they were called traitors by the right-wing nuts. Does this mean you are now a traitor?

He's a terrorist!
 
Old 02-13-2009, 04:39 AM
 
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What sort of amazes me is that some of the folks on here who are so upset that he used his shortened name at Occidental are the same folks who on other threads have claimed that there is no proof that he attended Occidental. Strange.

(Note to at least one of those guys--this is not a personal attack. It is a statement of fact. I will continue to argue but will not call any of you names or issue personal attacks.)
 
Old 02-13-2009, 11:45 AM
 
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Default Council To Occidental College, We Will Have To Comply With Subpoena

In the case, handled largely by Gary Kreep of the U.S. Justice Foundation, records were subpoenaed documenting Obama's attendance at Occidental College.



The lawyer for the college, Stuart W. Rudnick of Musick, Peeler & Garrett, urgently contacted Fredric D. Woocher of Strumwasser & Woocher.



"This firm is counsel to Occidental College. The College is in receipt of the enclosed subpoena that seeks certain information concerning President-Elect Barack Obama," he wrote via fax. "Inasmuch as the subpoena appears to be valid on its face, the College will have no alternative but to comply with the subpoena absent a court order instructing otherwise."



Within hours, Woocher contacted Kreep regarding the issue, telling him, "It will likely not surprise you to hear that President-elect Obama opposes the production of the requested records.



LINK

I am sure there will be a swarm here soon to call names and disparage me for this post, but honestly ... why hide this info if there is nothing there that can hurt him?

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