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Okay, you lost me on that because now you're right back in the money pit, er black hole.
This goes along with my beliefs in general....every state should have an agency/department that combs through every other state and local government agency's budgets and idenitfy any unnecessary spending and cut it. All of the information should be readily available to the public.
And where exactly in the country did this "mixing" occur. .
I thought non-tracked classes were pretty much standard nationwide. According to the analysis... "The other key factor in preserving academic quality was the practice of grouping students by ability in as many subjects as possible The contrast was stark: schools that had "severely declining test scores" had "moved determinedly toward heterogeneous grouping" (that is, mixed students of differing ability levels in the same classes), while the "schools who have maintained good SAT scores" tended "to prefer homogeneous grouping."
It's reasonable to conclude that since the SAT had to be recentered about 100 or so points, the decline was widespread.
did you know what goes on in a public school.
did you know how many unreported assaults, some of them sexual, there are on teachers not to mention kids. did you know the welfare staff is full of credentialed teachers here? 40% of public school teachers send their kids to private school.
voucher, the sooner the better.
signed
a liberal
Last edited by Huckleberry3911948; 02-15-2009 at 05:28 PM..
You think public schools aren't about the money??? They suck money like a mosquito sucks blood - relentlessly. I'll give you two quotes from school board members in a newspaper article I posted earlier in this thread...
"We're spending more money, and it's not getting us better performance," said Tim Millar, school board president in Palatine Township Elementary District 15, who campaigned on a taxpayer platform. "The culture is to talk about lack of money rather than return on investment. It's really frightening."
"The system is not efficient, and it's anything but high-quality," said Chris Jenner, a school board member at Cary Elementary District 26. Jenner is part of an informal group of a dozen suburban school board members who meet occasionally to talk shop, and believe the public school system in Illinois is fundamentally flawed. "The complete and utter focus is on funding, not on how the money's spent, but on getting more money," Jenner said. "People should be outraged." Daily Herald | Chapter 10: Only 1 in 5 high school graduates are ready for college
That's because..as i stated earlier.. it's NOT about MONEY.. it's about CURRICULUM And METHODS of teaching.. NOT about how much money is sued to teach the old way of teaching!!
I thought non-tracked classes were pretty much standard nationwide. According to the analysis... "The other key factor in preserving academic quality was the practice of grouping students by ability in as many subjects as possible The contrast was stark: schools that had "severely declining test scores" had "moved determinedly toward heterogeneous grouping" (that is, mixed students of differing ability levels in the same classes), while the "schools who have maintained good SAT scores" tended "to prefer homogeneous grouping."
It's reasonable to conclude that since the SAT had to be recentered about 100 or so points, the decline was widespread.
Again.. it's a school to school thing.
those that had the ability in my high school of high scores and were academic achievers had the option of taking AP classes , or classes that were harder, more in depth and that gave them college credits while earning their H.S diploma. Then there was the Regents diploma classes.. which were harder and more in depth than the general diploma.
So my school mixed .. in the sense that there were all types of achievers in the school... BUT in the classrooms not so much.
And just because some kids couldn't pass the regents courses didn't mean the rest of us were flunking in it OR that the material was made easier. If they didn't cut it they didn't cut it.
AS for the SAT scores being lower across the board.. again.. i believe that is more attributable to the shift in everyones home life in general and our culture and priorities of our teenagers today more so than on the fault of public education.. as I mention in an earlier post.
did you know what goes on in a public school.
did you know how many unreported assaults, some of them sexual, there are on teachers not to mention kids. did you know the welfare staff is full of credentialed teachers here? 40% of public school teachers send their kids to private school.
voucher, the sooner the better.
signed
a liberal
That is a school to school issue. .NOT a national issue.. My school was perfectly safe.. no incidents.. and i felt completely safe. It all depends on where you are and the safety issue needs to be addressed on a school to school district to district level.
Teachers Unions - including the NEA, strongly disagree with you. They say, "it's the money"
Wel.. I believe they are wrong.
And I don't particularly like teacher's unions.. I thnk they are part of trhe problem.. as is tenure and the like.
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I'm right there with you!