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Old 03-02-2009, 12:14 AM
 
Location: New York City
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The problem is that Palestine claims it was their land all along which there is no guarantee that it is and also with wars that changes too.My ancestors after Israel went to Austria by the border of Poland.With wars it was Austrias then Polands,then Austria,Russia,and today it's part of the modern day Ukraine(in Sambir).If both have good claims they should be able to divy it up fairly and should also be able to coexist. Just for your information there still is quite a large muslim population in Israel.
They should live in it fairly, I agree. If a two-state solution does not work, then a one state solution in which Israel isn't considered a Jewish, Muslim, or Christian State but one for semites (Jews and Arabs) would work. However, you would have to allow back all those Palestinian refugees living out of Israel, as well.
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Old 03-02-2009, 12:39 AM
 
Location: Long Island,New York
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They should live in it fairly, I agree. If a two-state solution does not work, then a one state solution in which Israel isn't considered a Jewish, Muslim, or Christian State but one for semites (Jews and Arabs) would work. However, you would have to allow back all those Palestinian refugees living out of Israel, as well.
I have no problem with that
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Old 03-02-2009, 11:48 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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Zionists!!! You are such a racist and why the world has changed for the worst.I personally give everyone a fair shot but you label people based on religion.
Zionism is not a religion, and noticing that it isn't doesn't make one a racist. Zionism is a crazed racist doctrine, the Jewish equivalent of fascism. But since there are no Arab-owned media outlets, it's de facto forbidden to point that out.

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Old 03-02-2009, 11:52 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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I have no problem with that
Glad you don't, but Israel sure does. The basis of Israel's admission to the UN in 1949 was that they would repatriate all the Arab refugees. Guess what happened--they got UN admission and then reneged. Just up and abrogated the agreement, and they have never been called to account. You wonder why people hate Israel, there you go. No other country would've gotten away with crap like that, except for the permanent imperialists, I mean permanent members of the Security Council.
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Old 03-02-2009, 12:21 PM
 
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The German media is controlled by the zionist US- and GB- media networks. Yes they often criticize the american war politics, the economic mentality and lough about the education system, the simple-mindness and other stereotypes
Man, you are really very interesting to say the least:
The media is controlled by the Zionists(!) US and GB.... who often criticize American war politics and laugh about the simple minded....
What kind of control is that brother??? Do you know how controlled media looks like? Take a peek at the East German media before 1990 to get an idea.
"Zionists controlling the German media" - I hoped that I will never hear this combination again from a German in my lifetime....
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Old 03-02-2009, 12:31 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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Man, you are really very interesting to say the least:
The media is controlled by the Zionists(!) US and GB.... who often criticize American war politics and laugh about the simple minded....
What kind of control is that brother??? Do you know how controlled media looks like? Take a peek at the East German media before 1990 to get an idea.
"Zionists controlling the German media" - I hoped that I will never hear this combination again from a German in my lifetime....
I don't know f***-all about German media, but in the U.S. if you get on the wrong side of certain people you are likely to be denounced as an "anti-Semite" and to have your career cut short. Hence the joke, the definition of an anti-Semite is "a person the Jews hate".
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Old 03-03-2009, 02:14 AM
 
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Lancet@

I don´t mean, that zionism = judaism ... a jew is a jew, wheather by his ancestors and/or by his religious belief.


Zionism is a racist ideology, it demands palestine to be a land run by jews. But the real problem is their power, especially in financial buisiness and the media.

There are so many jews in the "big buisiness" like W. Buffet, A. Greenspan, Wolfowitz, Gleithner, A. Dershowitz, Bloomberg, Bronfman and and and

I can´t proof that everyone of them is a zionist, but most of them are well- linked with Israel and zionist networks

Maybe i shouldn´t have used the term "zionist networks" but "powerful lobbyist networks". Of course it´s not only jews in this "big buisiness"

In German media people are blamed antisemits very very very quick, i don´t think, that you can compare it with america, but of course we have a different history ...
In America sometimes anti- israeli jews of "neturei karta" become a platform, in Germany it´s nearly impossible!

The key point is, that the big US- news agencies- und corporations are linked with each other, and they feed the entire world with their chosen and manipulated news. If they want to figure aout the confict in Tibet, in all papers and tv- news of the western and many parts of the rest of the world you´ll read this on the first pages. I in the same time massacres in africa are taking place, but the agencies don´t care about it, you´ll not read anything about it. So the media decide what is important and what is not, what exist and what don´t exist ...

So you can forget press freedom!
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Old 03-03-2009, 02:29 AM
 
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Man, you are really very interesting to say the least:
The media is controlled by the Zionists(!) US and GB.... who often criticize American war politics and laugh about the simple minded....
What kind of control is that brother??? Do you know how controlled media looks like? Take a peek at the East German media before 1990 to get an idea.
"Zionists controlling the German media" - I hoped that I will never hear this combination again from a German in my lifetime....
Sorry I didn´t mean that they control this stuff! This is not dangerous at all for the elites. But you can´t enter the inner core of capitalism ...

They aren´t that paranoid like in a dictatorship. It´s enough to chose and manipulate the news and to conceal the power of capitalist elites, the activities of secret services and their links to the oil, weapon- and drugmafias
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Old 03-03-2009, 02:42 AM
 
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If a two-state solution does not work, then a one state solution in which Israel isn't considered a Jewish, Muslim, or Christian State would work. However, you would have to allow back all those Palestinian refugees living out of Israel, as well.
This is the only long term solution
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