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Old 03-05-2009, 07:10 AM
 
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Every day I listen to the talking heads argue about Obama's free health care plan. Some say it would lead to everyone in the USA looking for a handout i.e a free car, free food, free movies, a free computer etc etc. I don't really buy that. Do you? Why or why not? I guess I don't understand what free health care has to do with the entrepreneurial spirit of America. What does the security of someone getting treated for an injury/illness have to do with limiting his/her ability to create a business, or invent a desirable product, or learn a skill etc. etc in order to create capital.
I mean, couldn't free health care save some companies from having to pay for the insurance of its employees thus giving them more money to expand the company?

How much more would taxes be in order to have a free health care system?

Also would hospitals become nationalized under this plan or would the treatment be covered under some sort of government health insurance plan?

Would the quality of health care be diminished with a free health care system? Why or why not?

I guess I am looking for LEGITIMATE non-political party based reasons as to why Free Health Care is or isn't a good endeavor other than it's democrat or not republican. Politics and its tians are what divide this country....but that is a different thread topic.
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Old 03-05-2009, 07:20 AM
 
Location: Texas
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It's bad enough that the insurance companies are telling you how and when you're going to get treated. You want a penny-pinching government-run social healthcare system deciding on your health care? When the cost/benefit ratio to society will be placed higher than whether or not you receive timely and appropriate care?

Thanks, but no thanks.
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Old 03-05-2009, 07:21 AM
 
Location: Iowa, Heartland of Murica
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This concept is totally unamerican! First, some people would be paying for the care of others, so basically, my tax money would go to support some nutcase like that woman who chose to have 14 babies and other types of lowlives. Secondly, Government run health systems tend to be very dysfunctional. In Brazil, people stand in line for two hours sometimes just to be able to set up an appointment. In Canada, patients have to be put on waiting lists and sometimes have to wait weeks to get something done. Although I do not agree at all with what we have currently, universal health care is NOT the solution.
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Old 03-05-2009, 07:24 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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No one is proposing a "free" heatlh care system, that is, one w/o any charges to the patients.
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Old 03-05-2009, 07:25 AM
 
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universal health care is NOT the solution.
Why wouldn't you want universal health care? That just means everyone has access to healthcare. You're probably looking for single-payer healthcare.
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Old 03-05-2009, 07:25 AM
 
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We are getting socialized healthcare in this country so we may as well get used to that that will mean.

I'm just interested to know how much the greedy lower half of the income earners are going to be made to pay for the world's healthcare. If we truly want to be more like other countries, I would expect that to mean a substantial percentage of their income.
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Old 03-05-2009, 07:26 AM
 
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No one is proposing a "free" heatlh care system, that is, one w/o any charges to the patients.
Ok so clarify to everyone what is it that is being proposed. I still have no idea what the reality of it is.
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Old 03-05-2009, 07:29 AM
 
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a government run health care woud be a work in progress, if we made sure the motivation was healing and preventing people from getting sick, it would be awesome, today it is based on making money, we need a complete change in our life based on the criminals in washington to wall street to the people involved in the health care industry

nothing is more corrupt and disgusting then the health care system in this country
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Old 03-05-2009, 07:31 AM
 
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It's bad enough that the insurance companies are telling you how and when you're going to get treated. You want a penny-pinching government-run social healthcare system deciding on your health care? When the cost/benefit ratio to society will be placed higher than whether or not you receive timely and appropriate care?

Thanks, but no thanks.
so you are saying that the limitations of health care and the bureaucratic red tape of getting treatment will be much more severe under government health care compared to now?
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Old 03-05-2009, 07:31 AM
 
Location: Iowa, Heartland of Murica
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We are getting socialized healthcare in this country so we may as well get used to that that will mean.
Liberals are all about "equality", so I will be going to work everyday to pay for the healthcare of that lowlife who is unemployed and has 14 kids and other riff raff. Interesting logic!
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