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This concept is totally unamerican! First, some people would be paying for the care of others,
You're already paying for the care of others. That's how insurance works. Are you saying the insurance industry is unAmerican?
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so basically, my tax money would go to support some nutcase like that woman who chose to have 14 babies and other types of lowlives.
See above. Your insurance premiums already do that.
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Secondly, Government run health systems tend to be very dysfunctional. In Brazil, people stand in line for two hours sometimes just to be able to set up an appointment. In Canada, patients have to be put on waiting lists and sometimes have to wait weeks to get something done. Although I do not agree at all with what we have currently, universal health care is NOT the solution.
I have to wait weeks for an appointment.
Ever been to an emergency room? I have. They made me wait.
I work with two people from Canada. I asked this question the other day. They said that the Canadian system is comparable to ours in both cost (comparable to our company plan) and care. Capitalism is also alive and well in Canada.
Canada has a single payer system and is different than the UK. In Canada there is no pre-existing condition clause and it is not linked to employment.
This is from 2008, but Im sure still very relevant, since US healthcare is getting worse.
To sum it up for you, the US is last amongst all industrialized countries in deaths from preventable illness. In other words, more people die from the flu, gangrene , insect and snake bites, skin cancer, strokes, diabetes, etc then any other industrialized country, most of which, have socialized medicine.
Why is this? Oh yeah, thats right, in the US, 43 million do not go to the doctor unless by ambulance, and most of the rest will not go unless they absolutely have no other option. They do not go for physicals, routine screenings, blood tests, or even check ups.
What does this do? Well, it obviously clears out the doctors office, because nobody is getting the care they SHOULD be getting, because they cant afford it, however, it also leads to over 100k more deaths a year.
For profit medicine is a joke, and always will be.
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Government health-care advocates used to sing the praises of Britain's National Health Service. That's until its poor delivery of health-care services became known. A recent study by David Green and Laura Casper, "Delay, Denial and Dilution," written for the London-based Institute of Economic Affairs, concludes that the NHS health-care services are just about the worst in the developed world. The head of the World Health Organization calculated that Britain has as many as 25,000 unnecessary cancer deaths a year because of under-provision of care. Twelve percent of specialists surveyed admitted refusing kidney dialysis to patients suffering from kidney failure because of limits on cash. Waiting lists for medical treatment have become so long that there are now "waiting lists" for the waiting list.
It simply does not make any sense. If Jim Bob is a welfare leech and chose to smoke his entire life, I will be paying for his lung cancer treatment with my tax dollars. I believe in personal responsibility above anything else.Why should I pay for people's stupidity?
What if Jim Bob isn't on welfare? What if he needs an expensive procedure to keep working and supporting his family? Would you help him then?
I will not support any type of universal or free government healthcare until the sourthern border is secured with a 10 foot high concrete wall and most illegal aliens are gone from this country. When the latter occurs, then I will gladly pay more taxes towards a universal healthcare type system that insure Americans and legal immigrants only.
I beg to differ! I was in Monte Carlo, Monaco last year and although it is a small country(principate), I would say, it is the place I have felt most comfortable in anywhere in the world. No tax on personal income, no capital gains tax, no inheritance tax, pro-landlord legislation. A true example of laissez-faire Economics.
Monte Carlo is a pimple on a dog's you-know-what compared to the United States. It's a safe haven for the obscenely wealthy and priveledged. Very little that goes on there would have any relevenace to challenges facing a major industrialized nation such as our country, or the one that is kind enough to even allow it to exist.
I was in Monte Carlo, Monaco last year and although it is a small country(principate), I would say, it is the place I have felt most comfortable in anywhere in the world. No tax on personal income, no capital gains tax, no inheritance tax, pro-landlord legislation. A true example of laissez-faire Economics.
What makes you feel comfortable in a country is its tax law? I dunno...but what makes me feel comfortable in an area is its people.
Will the proposed health care system include psychiatric treatment?
THe reason there are waiting lists in countries with universal health care is because people are actually RECEIVING the medical care they need. Here in the US, people normally go without or wait until they need a quadruple bipass. Limiting healthcare to the wealthy is not the way to free up the health care system.
Randamdude,
That is not the reason. In countries with national healthcare, there aren't enough facilities to serve all people. What happens is that the system is very expensive and each year politicians try to cut the budget. It results in fewer facilities with fewer services. It is very easy to have a national system, but the system quickly deteriorates and in 2-3 years becomes almost unusable. To make things work, Obama may need to cap costs of healthcare. This again may lead to lower standards.
What if the future administration has no money (we will need to pay our debt) and cuts drastically the universal health budget? The waiting lines will be very very long.
This happened with almost all government projects in the US.
This is from 2008, but Im sure still very relevant, since US healthcare is getting worse.
To sum it up for you, the US is last amongst all industrialized countries in deaths from preventable illness. In other words, more people die from the flu, gangrene , insect and snake bites, skin cancer, strokes, diabetes, etc then any other industrialized country, most of which, have socialized medicine.
Why is this? Oh yeah, thats right, in the US, 43 million do not go to the doctor unless by ambulance, and most of the rest will not go unless they absolutely have no other option. They do not go for physicals, routine screenings, blood tests, or even check ups.
What does this do? Well, it obviously clears out the doctors office, because nobody is getting the care they SHOULD be getting, because they cant afford it, however, it also leads to over 100k more deaths a year.
For profit medicine is a joke, and always will be.
France and Germany have the most elite medical care systems in the world, and last I checked they were also major industrialized nations with stong economies, and high standard of living. So to tie it back into the OP's question, no, socialized medicine won't hurt a damn thing in our capitalist-leaning economy, despite the hard right's nonsense to the contrary.
The only thing standing in the way of a better United States (in this regard), is political poppycock
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