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Old 04-29-2009, 10:43 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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I heard them say on NPR that there is no scientific evidence that closing the border would help. Just repeating what I heard.

 
Old 04-29-2009, 10:47 PM
 
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I heard them say on NPR that there is no scientific evidence that closing the border would help. Just repeating what I heard.
I think at this point it would be like opening a jug of Ebola virus on a plane, then having everyone move to first class to be safe. Kinda sorta just don't work that way.
 
Old 04-29-2009, 11:15 PM
 
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We've had one death and a few dozen reported cases. So what?
This sounds like the Chicken Little panic over the bird flu all over again.

Memories are sooooo short.

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Originally Posted by Center for Disease Control web site

Every year in the United States, on average:

* 5% to 20% of the population gets the flu;
* more than 200,000 people are hospitalized from flu-related complications; and
* about 36,000 people die from flu-related causes.
 
Old 04-29-2009, 11:22 PM
 
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Default Swine flu is less severe than expected

from latimes.com:

Scientists studying the virus are concluding that it isn't as deadly as its 1918 counterpart, or even the average flu.

As the World Health Organization raised its infectious disease alert level Wednesday and health officials confirmed the first death linked to swine flu inside U.S. borders, scientists studying the virus are coming to the consensus that this hybrid strain of influenza -- at least in its current form -- isn't shaping up to be as fatal as the strains that caused some previous pandemics.

In fact, the current outbreak of the H1N1 virus, which emerged in San Diego and southern Mexico late last month, may not even do as much damage as the run-of-the-mill flu outbreaks that occur each winter without much fanfare.

Swine flu is less severe than expected - Los Angeles Times
 
Old 04-29-2009, 11:39 PM
 
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Engineered.


YouTube - Mexican Flu Outbreak 2009: SPECIAL REPORT by Dr Leonard Horowitz

Wish I had money to invest in silver right now.

Don't take too much lest you turn into a smurf.

Papa Smurf

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahihG...eature=related

http://www.wpxi.com/video/19313969/index.html (broken link)

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Old 04-29-2009, 11:54 PM
 
Location: on the edge of Sanity
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I can't believe all the bigotry on this board! First of all, those who wrote that the couple whose baby died came to the United States just to get medical care must not be parents. After all, if your baby was sick with a fever, would you wait that long or travel far? Second, they flew from Mexico City to a border town and then drove to Brownsville to visit relatives. So that's saving money?

The stereotype of all Mexicans being poor is based on the immigrants who come here for work. There are also a lot of professionals living in Mexico. There are also a lot of very rich people. Not everyone is a day laborer or farm worker. Believe me, if you've read my other posts, you know I don't even like pressing 1 for English! So this isn't just a liberal rant.

However, to assume these people came to this country for any other reason than to visit relatives, as all the articles indicate, is nothing but prejudice.

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Originally Posted by TnHilltopper View Post
I think at this point it would be like opening a jug of Ebola virus on a plane, then having everyone move to first class to be safe. Kinda sorta just don't work that way.
I like your analogy! That's the way I often feel about non-smoking sections.
 
Old 04-30-2009, 05:34 AM
 
Location: A little suburb of Houston
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I can't believe all the bigotry on this board! First of all, those who wrote that the couple whose baby died came to the United States just to get medical care must not be parents. After all, if your baby was sick with a fever, would you wait that long or travel far? Second, they flew from Mexico City to a border town and then drove to Brownsville to visit relatives. So that's saving money?

The stereotype of all Mexicans being poor is based on the immigrants who come here for work. There are also a lot of professionals living in Mexico. There are also a lot of very rich people. Not everyone is a day laborer or farm worker. Believe me, if you've read my other posts, you know I don't even like pressing 1 for English! So this isn't just a liberal rant.

However, to assume these people came to this country for any other reason than to visit relatives, as all the articles indicate, is nothing but prejudice.



I like your analogy! That's the way I often feel about non-smoking sections.
Actually, they did come to the states for medical care according to the press conference given by the doctors. The medical care just had nothing to do with the virus. They were in Houston for the medical care in early April then returned to Brownsville where the child first started showing symptoms and then was sent back to Houston. Lotsa folks from all over (other countries included) go to the medical center in Houston for medical care nothing new about that.
 
Old 04-30-2009, 05:37 AM
 
Location: Visitation between Wal-Mart & Home Depot
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Well, as I've said before in this thread, I agree that the media has hyped it, but I'm wondering ... at what point does the outbreak of a potentially deadly variant of the flu warrant more attention? What's your opinion?
That's a good question and I'm not sure that I have a good answer other than:

"At some point after 0.000002% of the nation's citizens have fallen ill." This has affected fewer people in the United States than the baseball steroid scandal.

Please understand that I don't believe anyone can point fingers at the staff of organizations like the CDC or the WHO for executing their respective missions, the craziness is limited to the journalism and philosophy majors who are reporting it.
 
Old 04-30-2009, 07:13 AM
 
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That's a good question and I'm not sure that I have a good answer other than:

"At some point after 0.000002% of the nation's citizens have fallen ill." This has affected fewer people in the United States than the baseball steroid scandal.

Please understand that I don't believe anyone can point fingers at the staff of organizations like the CDC or the WHO for executing their respective missions, the craziness is limited to the journalism and philosophy majors who are reporting it.
I believe you. It's a really hard thing to judge, I think. I was just curious as to what you thought of the media's role. Regarding the CDC & WHO, I absolutely agree with you; they are doing their jobs, and doing them well.
 
Old 04-30-2009, 08:20 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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Originally Posted by jimboburnsy View Post
That's a good question and I'm not sure that I have a good answer other than:

"At some point after 0.000002% of the nation's citizens have fallen ill." This has affected fewer people in the United States than the baseball steroid scandal.

Please understand that I don't believe anyone can point fingers at the staff of organizations like the CDC or the WHO for executing their respective missions, the craziness is limited to the journalism and philosophy majors who are reporting it.
Good point!
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