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Old 05-24-2009, 08:07 PM
 
Location: Reading, PA
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Indeed , those are just a few of the examples of what we are talking about.
Do you not realize that your attempts to push your religion on people of other religions and those with no religion for so many years was seen as hostility and hatred towards them? Perhaps you do. Perhaps that's why you think the push-back is "hostility" and "hatred".
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Old 05-24-2009, 08:08 PM
 
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And you don't think that people who aren't Christian have a right to live their lives without, what they might consider to be, the yoke of Christianity around their necks? Do you think that this might be the reason for hostility?
Sure, please explain what you consider, "the yoke of christianity" that you are forced to live with.
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Old 05-24-2009, 08:10 PM
 
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Do you not realize that your attempts to push your religion on people of other religions and those with no religion for so many years was seen as hostility and hatred towards them? Perhaps you do. Perhaps that's why you think the push-back is "hostility" and "hatred".
No! Listen up. this Country has been a Christian nation from the beginning. Christians have not been on the offensive in this nation, they have been on the defensive against a continuous attack on longstanding Christian traditions and values that made this country what it is.
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Old 05-24-2009, 08:15 PM
 
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No!
No what?

No, you didn't realize that pushing your religion on others is viewed as hostile and hateful?
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Old 05-24-2009, 08:18 PM
 
Location: Reading, PA
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Sure, please explain what you consider, "the yoke of christianity" that you are forced to live with.
I can't speak for helenjen but the first thing that comes to mind is the constant public praying in which everyone is suppose to participate. Prayers to open everything. If you want to pray, pray before you leave your home. But you don't want to just pray, you want to make me pray. That's what I object to.
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Old 05-24-2009, 08:22 PM
 
Location: Reading, PA
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No! Listen up. this Country has been a Christian nation from the beginning. Christians have not been on the offensive in this nation, they have been on the defensive against a continuous attack on longstanding Christian traditions and values that made this country what it is.
No it hasn't. It's been a country whose residents were mostly Christians of one sort or another whose "founding fathers" had enough sense to put in writing that the government should not have a religion.

Christians don't get to claim all those values that they say the country was founded on. Most religions share them as do most people without religion. They're just common sense.
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Old 05-24-2009, 08:22 PM
 
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I can't speak for helenjen but the first thing that comes to mind is the constant public praying in which everyone is suppose to participate. Prayers to open everything. If you want to pray, pray before you leave your home. But you don't want to just pray, you want to make me pray. That's what I object to.
Oh how horrific!! So do you actually pray during this constant demand for public praying?
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Old 05-24-2009, 08:24 PM
 
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No it hasn't. It's been a country whose residents were mostly Christians of one sort or another whose "founding fathers" had enough sense to put in writing that the government should not have a religion.

Christians don't get to claim all those values that they say the country was founded on. Most religions share them as do most people without religion. They're just common sense.
Yeah, ok, and this is where the conversation ends. Good luck to ya! Wonder where that "common sense" comes from?
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Old 05-24-2009, 08:29 PM
 
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No! Listen up. this Country has been a Christian nation from the beginning. Christians have not been on the offensive in this nation, they have been on the defensive against a continuous attack on longstanding Christian traditions and values that made this country what it is.
"Christianity neither is, nor ever was, a part of the Common Law."
-Thomas Jefferson, letter to Dr. Thomas Cooper, 1814
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Old 05-24-2009, 08:29 PM
 
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Oh how horrific!! So do you actually pray during this constant demand for public praying?
Apparently you think it's ok to force your religion on others. See how you are?
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