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Old 05-25-2009, 09:47 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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I guess its the same reason so many middle class and other groups feel like they are being attacked in our society.Christian feel that they are being banded as a group from expressing their beliefs in such places as schools which I think seems true and its being replaced by ever more political beliefs teachings of the secualr world. Afterall they saw the same with national sociaism in geramny;socialism i russisia.and communtism in so many countries.

national sociaism, rose hand in hand with the christian religion in its back pocket. once it gained absolute power, it parted ways with some of the churches, but always 'working god's will' into their mantra. it used race, religion and ethnicity as separators to the fullest degree.
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Old 05-25-2009, 12:37 PM
 
Location: California
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Never before in American history have Christians experienced being hated for following Jesus Christ as they are today.


Many of today's Christians are, frankly, wusses. They don't really care that they have all the freedom in the world and rights to practice their faith. Those rights were fought for by better people than them, they don't know what persecution really is. Their big issues today are finding things to yell and scream about, like when the 10C's aren't in front of every courthouse and a Bible isn't on the desk of every teacher, and some school kid can't wear their purity ring because jewelry is against the dress code.

It's embarassing.
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Old 05-25-2009, 02:15 PM
 
Location: Boise
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Speaking of "paths" which a certain ideology will take societies down: you need to study the paths that "religion free" governments have taken their citizens down. The Soviet regime was well known for this, although it is still not widely reported (wonder why that is?) just how many people died during these regimes. The Nazi philosophy thought of itself as scientific and "fact based" to the core, and the body count is 11 million (executed, not including those killed in their war schemes). The Chinese are quite adept at the stamping-out of religion, and their body count is hard to ascertain thus far (wonder why this is?).

And you want to call Christianity dangerous. In fact, if our country were not Christian at its core, the most evil regimes of the last 100 years would have had their run of the planet.

Are you certain that you truly "categorize everything appropriately for what is", and, furthermore, have our hallowed journalists in this country made the same effort?

stalin and hitler and the examples you use for secular government were ideology based, ideology can be just as harmful as religion.. because they are one in the same really...
so you're comparison is not valid... A secular democracy is different to a secular tyrant or dictator...
surely you can understand the principles....
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