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Old 06-05-2009, 10:09 PM
 
Location: Chicago's Southside
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Not rumor. Intelligence data from around the world. The Un and other countries were begging Saddam to give them up - if they didn't think he had them, why would they do that?

The world thought he had them - that is a fact you can't escape.
Yea, Bush and his Administration did one heck of a sales job pushing this war huh? Based on what? Lies, misinformation, wrongful intelligence, so amateurish.
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Old 06-05-2009, 10:12 PM
 
Location: Over Yonder
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Has that conspiracy theory come to fruition?
Please, OPEC has a world wide monopoly on oil and it is no theory that they did not like the way Saddam did business. I mean, trading oil for food and selling cheap oil to other countries is simply bad for business if you want to control prices around the world. And that is what OPEC does. Ever heard if you can't beat em, join em. Well, in this case it's more like if you can't get em to join, beat em.
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Old 06-05-2009, 10:14 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Jeez.... They were looking for WMDs. They didn't find any. They wanted more time to complete the job. They didn't get it because if they had been allowed to finish and no weapons were found, there would have been no excuse to invade Iraq.
There is one more consideration. The weapons inspectors under the direction of Hans Blix were not given the necessary time to finish the job they went to Iraq to do because they would have finished during the summer. The weather then would have been inhospitable for an invasion. The invasion would have had to wait for fall.

Bush and Company could not take the chance of losing the momentum they had built up with the steady drumbeat for war backed by the cooked data from Tenet grasping at straws to make Bush's case. so Blix and Crew were abruptly pulled out and the invasion begun.
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Old 06-05-2009, 10:15 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Because it was a big game my dear.
What did the US (Bush) gain by going to war with Iraq?

Free oil? Conquering and governing Iraq for our benefit?

What exactly was the personal gain for bush?
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Old 06-05-2009, 10:15 PM
 
Location: Chicago's Southside
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Makes you think about that closed door meeting Cheney had with Big Oil, remember that?
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Old 06-05-2009, 10:16 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Yeah, where is all that oil we stole?
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Old 06-05-2009, 10:18 PM
 
Location: Chicago's Southside
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Yeah, where is all that oil we stole?
Are the republicans still in power? Kind of ruined your plans?
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Old 06-05-2009, 10:19 PM
 
Location: Reading, PA
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What did the US (Bush) gain by going to war with Iraq?

Free oil? Conquering and governing Iraq for our benefit?

What exactly was the personal gain for bush?
It's not what they gained but what they thought they were going to gain. Yes, oil. And while they were at it, they could divert tax monies to Halliburton et al under the guise of "privatization".

And Bush thought his dick would get bigger if he did what his Daddy chose not to do -- remove Saddam.
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Old 06-05-2009, 10:21 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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What did the US (Bush) gain by going to war with Iraq?

Free oil? Conquering and governing Iraq for our benefit?

What exactly was the personal gain for bush?
Bush 41 sat on the board of the Carlyle Group (along with a Bin Laden) whose holdings included the manufacturers of an enormous amount of munitions used by the U.S. in Iraq.

Every bomb dropped in Iraq directly enriched the Bush family. Not really surprising in light of the fact that W's grandfather did business with the Nazis.

Every family has its own character. The Kennedys were rumrunners, the Bushes are war profiteers.

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Old 06-05-2009, 10:21 PM
 
Location: Reading, PA
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Yeah, where is all that oil we stole?
Just another casualty of the bad planning -- lack of planning -- that went into the war. They thought that if they dreamed it, it would happen.
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