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Old 07-27-2009, 03:01 PM
 
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Robert Gibbs is asked why the birther issue keeps coming up, his answer: "Because for 15 bucks you can get a web address and say anything you want"!

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Old 07-27-2009, 03:04 PM
 
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The popular understanding that anyone born in the US at any time is automatically a citizen is, I think, in violation of the intent of the Framers of our Constitution, and those who have amended it.

An interesting summary of some of these issues is here: 08/31/01 - Weigh Anchor! Enforce the Citizenship Clause

I don't have time now to summarize them, but some good points are listed on why the child of a foreign citizen (even if born here) is not a US citizen because he is not subject to US jurisdiction.

But as I've said, the greater issue is that of dual or even multiple citizenship and how it might affect qualification.
That site is blocked through my work proxy as racist/hate speech.
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Old 07-27-2009, 03:11 PM
 
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OH looky here, all the birthers together in a 3 1/2 minute video!
WARNING: CONTAINS PROFANITY

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Old 07-27-2009, 03:14 PM
 
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That site is blocked through my work proxy as racist/hate speech.
Honestly today is the first time I've ever seen it.

Try looking at it when you get home.
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Old 07-27-2009, 03:14 PM
 
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Maybe it would prove nothing. So, why can't we see it?

The bigger issue isn't birth place, but citizenship.

Even if Obama was born in Hawaii, he may be unqualified to serve.

He may hold dual or even multiple citizenship (US, British, Kenya, Indonesia).
Hahaha...and the rabbit hole goes deeper.

All the evidence of facts against Joe White was so overwhelming that now he's created an entirely NEW absurd argument...

At least you acknowledge that Obama was born in Hawaii. Next step is to accept that that's good enough.

He has withstood every inquiry into this matter. Joe White. You are left alone with the crazies. Please join us again.
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Old 07-27-2009, 03:19 PM
 
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Elected birthers----BIRTHERS ON THE HILL

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Old 07-27-2009, 03:23 PM
 
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I am Joe White, what about?

Andrew Jackson (1829-1837) both parents born in Ireland
Thomas Jefferson (1801-1809) mother born in England
James Buchanan (1857-1861) father born in Ireland
Woodrow Wilson (1913-1921) mother born in England
Herbert Hoover (1929-1933), mother born in Canada
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Old 07-27-2009, 03:41 PM
 
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ORLY TAITZ ON NATIONAL PUBLIC RADIO WITH BEN SMITH, MICHAEL MEDVED, MARK POTAK (SPLC)!!

Open link and click the "Listen to This Show" button at the top of the page.

The Fury of the ‘Birthers’ | WBUR and NPR - On Point with Tom Ashbrook (http://www.onpointradio.org/2009/07/the-fury-of-the-birthers - broken link)
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Old 07-27-2009, 03:54 PM
 
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OMG this is good!
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Dem Congressman Offering Resolution Recognizing Hawaii's History -- As Obama's Birthplace
By Eric Kleefeld - July 27, 2009, 4:17PM

Rep. Neil Abercrombie (D-HI) is set to give the House Republicans a chance to put up or shut up on the Birtherism that is circulating among their grassroots base, Greg Sargent reports: A House resolution recognizing Hawaii as President Obama's birthplace.

Technically, the resolution's main purpose will be to celebrate the 50th anniversary of Hawaii's statehood. And while commemorating that grand history, the resolution will of course mention how the state is Obama's birthplace.

This gives Republicans a choice: Vote yes on the resolution, which would repudiate the Birthers; vote no, to endorse them; or skip the vote, which would basically be the same as voting no.

Abercrombie spokesman Dave Helfert seemed to be humorously denying that this was an effort to put the GOP on the spot. "Far be it from us to try to stir things up," said Helfert. "The president was born there, so what are you gonna do? Not mention it?"
Dem Congressman Offering Resolution Recognizing Hawaii's History -- As Obama's Birthplace | TPMDC
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Old 07-27-2009, 08:41 PM
 
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The icing on the cake:

In today's (July 27, 2009) Honolulu Advertiser:
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Obama Hawaii born, insist Isle officials
Updated at 2:57 p.m., Monday, July 27, 2009

In an attempt to quash persistent rumors that President Obama was not born in Honolulu on Aug. 4, 1961, Hawai'i's health director reiterated this afternoon that she has personally seen Obama's birth certificate in the Health Department's archives.

"I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawai'i State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawai'i State Department of Health verifying Barrack Hussein Obama was born in Hawai'i and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago...."
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