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I'm quite entertained at the "we won" nonsense. Almost as much as the Uncle Tom comments.
This is just trollish nonsense. Government is absolutely powerless to stop militia groups from forming. If the military were to get involved, many would defect along with equipment. Waco might've worked because it was just one group, but repeating the process would eventually demoralize the military and create splinter groups.
Are you saying that the militia groups NOW have the controlling power over our government? Are you saying that MANY people in the military would commit treason and desert their positions in our military?
Trolling? That was not a troll post! Where's your head?
The arugument is not about socialism vs capitalism. That is NOT the argument. The argument is about a well regulated economy vs a lazziez faire economy. I am for a well regulated economy and a strong central government. This is what works the best for the most people. Nobody is advocating the socialization of the economy. Yes, sometimes the government has to intervene- such as when it must take over banks. But the government does not hold on to the banks long. It puts them back in private hands as soon as it can clean them up. In fact, many times the FDIC takes over a bank for LESS THAN ONE DAY!! Like WaMu- they already had another bank- Chase- ready to step in and assume operations the day they took it over! The government does not want to own banks, insurance companies and GM. They want to clean them up and get them back in private hands ASAP! So I do not know where this "socialism" stuff is coming from!
First of all your claim about the government giving things back quickly has never been proven. This is the first time our government intervened like it did on this scale, so you have no clue. Why is Amtrak still government owned? Secondly, all this Socialism stuff comes from what is happening in Washington. Go ahead and say it's just a coincidence that this administration is following Alinsky's book Rules for Radicals step by step, go ahead and say it. This administration is the most power hungry, corrupt, Chicago style of politicians I have ever witnessed, being fueled by ultra liberal progressives that will stop at nothing to finally get their way, even if it means enslaving the American people to their policies and agendas.
"White supremacists and militias are more violent and thus more likely to conduct mass-casualty attacks on the scale of the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing," the threat projection said.
I believe there may be some right here on CD.
Some posts were worthy of being reported to the FBI, especially one in particular that called for people to get their guns and be ready to fight.
I noticed that no one would come out and answer my yes/no question.
Big men so long as they don't have to come right out and say that they believe and support a violent overthrow of the US government.
Oh goodie, another love it or leave it comment.
America, love it and change it.
"You people?"
You're the one talking about taking arms against a legally elected government.
You're the one who needs to look at yourself.
Free speech zones.
You remember them, don't you. If you disagreed with Bush, you were corralled 1-5 miles away from the event.
A little thing called The Patriot Act is another.
All you do is spread lies. That never happened. And by the way, I'm not advocating taking up arms, you want my statements to say that, but they don't. I can see you're nothng more than a follower and not a leader. You would follow your messiah right off a cliff. It takes more honor and integrity to stand up for what you truly believe in and be a leader than to give up and take the lazy route and be a follower. Again, if you don't like America for what it is, just leave. Nobody is holding you here. Your socialistic hippie ideas are the minority of thinking. If the Patriot Act scares you, you have issues. Just stop trying to plan terrorist attcks and stop giving comfort to our enemies and you will have nothing to worry about. It's pretty simple and nothing to worry about.
Are you saying that the militia groups NOW have the controlling power over our government? Are you saying that MANY people in the military would commit treason and desert their positions in our military?
Trolling? That was not a troll post! Where's your head?
It would operate as a domino effect. No government has ever been successful in a military occupation of their own citizens. Their leaders usually wind up dead or fleeing the country. America isn't special in this regard, and history is overwhelmingly on my side.
Don't think for a second that "good old boys" won't cross the line with their tanks, planes, explosives, and automatic rifles if they see US citizens killed by their comrades. That defection will breed more defection, and an explosion (no pun intended) in the amount of fragging within the ranks. Our own high commanders would begin to question the loyalty of their subordinates. The chain of command would not survive as it stood.
First of all your claim about the government giving things back quickly has never been proven. This is the first time our government intervened like it did on this scale, so you have no clue. Why is Amtrak still government owned? Secondly, all this Socialism stuff comes from what is happening in Washington. Go ahead and say it's just a coincidence that this administration is following Alinsky's book Rules for Radicals step by step, go ahead and say it. This administration is the most power hungry, corrupt, Chicago style of politicians I have ever witnessed, being fueled by ultra liberal progressives that will stop at nothing to finally get their way, even if it means enslaving the American people to their policies and agendas.
Robert, enough with Alinsky and the Rules for Radicals. The Rules are not leftist rules. Conservatives use them, too. Conservatives opposed to health care reform are using them. Get a clue, yourself.
All you do is spread lies. That never happened. And by the way, I'm not advocating taking up arms, you want my statements to say that, but they don't. I can see you're nothng more than a follower and not a leader. You would follow your messiah right off a cliff. It takes more honor and integrity to stand up for what you truly believe in and be a leader than to give up and take the lazy route and be a follower. Again, if you don't like America for what it is, just leave. Nobody is holding you here. Your socialistic hippie ideas are the minority of thinking. If the Patriot Act scares you, you have issues. Just stop trying to plan terrorist attcks and stop giving comfort to our enemies and you will have nothing to worry about. It's pretty simple and nothing to worry about.
Maybe we do like America for what it is. And we even like having you here. Because we think it's fair for everyone to have their say, even people who have very bad things to say. You have advocated the taking up of arms. You have specifically stated that resorting to violence is okay. And it isn't okay. It takes more than a willingness to die for your cause to grant you honor and integrity. The Patriot Act does scare me. But I'm not going to march on Washington and start shooting. Because fighting the good fight means living for your cause, means identifying your enemies who aren't necessarily the people who disagree with you, and for revealing the truth, not shutting up your opponents. No one is giving comfort to our enemies, but some of us see a complex world where the enemy isn't always who it appears to be.
All you do is spread lies. That never happened. And by the way, I'm not advocating taking up arms, you want my statements to say that, but they don't. I can see you're nothng more than a follower and not a leader. You would follow your messiah right off a cliff. It takes more honor and integrity to stand up for what you truly believe in and be a leader than to give up and take the lazy route and be a follower. Again, if you don't like America for what it is, just leave. Nobody is holding you here. Your socialistic hippie ideas are the minority of thinking. If the Patriot Act scares you, you have issues. Just stop trying to plan terrorist attcks and stop giving comfort to our enemies and you will have nothing to worry about. It's pretty simple and nothing to worry about.
Try this google page, Results 1 - 10 of about 482,000 for Bush free speech zones.
Just because you deny something doesn't mean it didn't happen.
You might want to check FACTS before you call someone a liar; you simply look silly, uneducated and out of touch with reality.
When Bush travels around the United States, the Secret Service visits the location ahead of time and orders local police to set up “free speech zones” or “protest zones” where people opposed to Bush policies (and sometimes sign-carrying supporters) are quarantined. These zones routinely succeed in keeping protesters out of presidential sight and outside the view of media covering the event.
First of all your claim about the government giving things back quickly has never been proven. This is the first time our government intervened like it did on this scale, so you have no clue. Why is Amtrak still government owned? Secondly, all this Socialism stuff comes from what is happening in Washington. Go ahead and say it's just a coincidence that this administration is following Alinsky's book Rules for Radicals step by step, go ahead and say it. This administration is the most power hungry, corrupt, Chicago style of politicians I have ever witnessed, being fueled by ultra liberal progressives that will stop at nothing to finally get their way, even if it means enslaving the American people to their policies and agendas.
Amtrak is owned by the govt because no one wants to buy even a piece of it.
If you've ever taken a look at Rs for Rs -- and it's obvious all you right-wingers have lately been gobbling it up, stealing from it because you're unable to create anything as intelligent on your own -- you'll see its strategies have been the Republicans' guide for twenty years.
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