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Old 08-20-2009, 01:35 PM
 
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Correction. I found the article, it was 3 cops. Sorry for that one, but it still doesn't say in the article that he was a right winger.
he shot 5 cops, killed 3

2009 Pittsburgh police shootings - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Edward Perkovic, a friend of Poplawski, said the gunman feared "the Obama gun ban that's on the way" and "didn't like our rights being infringed upon". Perkovic also stated that Poplawski "didn't like the Zionists controlling the media and controlling, you know, our freedom of speech" and that "He didn't like the control of the guns that was about to happen. He believed everything our forefathers put before us and thought that it was being distorted." Another longtime friend, Aaron Vire, said that Poplawski feared President Obama was going to take away his rights.[9]

as i mentioned before, he was also a registered republican.

i'm not even going to play the "nazis are left wing" game with you. it's absurd.

and how about the pro-life activist who murdered tiller?

motley crew, what kind of violence was perpetrated by students for a democratic society?

and you are talking about things that happened 30-40 years ago. i am talking about things that happened a few months ago.
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Old 08-20-2009, 01:39 PM
 
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he shot 5 cops, killed 3

2009 Pittsburgh police shootings - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Edward Perkovic, a friend of Poplawski, said the gunman feared "the Obama gun ban that's on the way" and "didn't like our rights being infringed upon". Perkovic also stated that Poplawski "didn't like the Zionists controlling the media and controlling, you know, our freedom of speech" and that "He didn't like the control of the guns that was about to happen. He believed everything our forefathers put before us and thought that it was being distorted." Another longtime friend, Aaron Vire, said that Poplawski feared President Obama was going to take away his rights.[9]

as i mentioned before, he was also a registered republican.

i'm not even going to play the "nazis are left wing" game with you. it's absurd.

and how about the pro-life activist who murdered tiller?

motley crew, what kind of violence was perpetrated by students for a democratic society?

and you are talking about things that happened 30-40 years ago. i am talking about things that happened a few months ago.
You still are not fully credible. Where does it say he was a registered Republican? You have no proof of anything you're saying. Nazi's were far left, look it up. As far as Tiller goes, that doesn't have to be politically motivated, it could have been "morally" motivated. Tit for Tat kind of thing. So again, where is your solid proof on any of your statements?
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Old 08-20-2009, 01:39 PM
 
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...That holocaust guy was far left if anything. He was a Nazi sympathizer.
Oh boy. Another ignorant person who thinks the Nazis were leftist. I'll repeat a previous post: If you think the Nazis were a leftist group then you need to open a history book. They were right-wing Fascists, who fought the left-wing Communists in WWII. If you don't know why the Nazis used the term socialist in their name in spite of the fact they were right-wing, then you need to repeat 10th grade.
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Old 08-20-2009, 01:43 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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he shot 5 cops, killed 3

2009 Pittsburgh police shootings - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Edward Perkovic, a friend of Poplawski, said the gunman feared "the Obama gun ban that's on the way" and "didn't like our rights being infringed upon". Perkovic also stated that Poplawski "didn't like the Zionists controlling the media and controlling, you know, our freedom of speech" and that "He didn't like the control of the guns that was about to happen. He believed everything our forefathers put before us and thought that it was being distorted." Another longtime friend, Aaron Vire, said that Poplawski feared President Obama was going to take away his rights.[9]

as i mentioned before, he was also a registered republican.

i'm not even going to play the "nazis are left wing" game with you. it's absurd.

and how about the pro-life activist who murdered tiller?

motley crew, what kind of violence was perpetrated by students for a democratic society?

and you are talking about things that happened 30-40 years ago. i am talking about things that happened a few months ago.
Also, you need to stop using Wikipedia for hardcaore facts. That is garbage in garbage out alot of the time. I see in there where it says he registered as a Republican, but you know what? I can log in and change that, so how is that accurate beyond a reasonable doubt?
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Old 08-20-2009, 01:45 PM
 
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Default Are you guys serious

Your actually keeping score of what party affiliation a murderer or Violent criminal was apart of. Violence is violence
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Old 08-20-2009, 01:49 PM
 
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Also, you need to stop using Wikipedia for hardcaore facts. That is garbage in garbage out alot of the time. I see in there where it says he registered as a Republican, but you know what? I can log in and change that, so how is that accurate beyond a reasonable doubt?
you can always read the original sources they link to. that is what i do before i start questioning the credibility of the facts presented in a wikipedia article, even when they don't bolster my political worldview. you should try it sometime.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09102/962297-53.stm

Unlike most 18-year-olds, Mr. Poplawski registered to vote almost as soon as he was legal. His party affiliation was Republican. He voted in the 2004 and 2008 presidential general elections.
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Old 08-20-2009, 01:51 PM
 
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Oh boy. Another ignorant person who thinks the Nazis were leftist. I'll repeat a previous post: If you think the Nazis were a leftist group then you need to open a history book. They were right-wing Fascists, who fought the left-wing Communists in WWII. If you don't know why the Nazis used the term socialist in their name in spite of the fact they were right-wing, then you need to repeat 10th grade.

"National Socialist Democratic Party" (NAZI)
" Socialism and fascism are each forms of statism, forms of government in which the government is given complete or extensive control over the lives of its citizens." I don't think that exists on the right. The right is about small government isn't it? Letting the people run their own lives?
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Old 08-20-2009, 01:54 PM
 
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Your actually keeping score of what party affiliation a murderer or Violent criminal was apart of. Violence is violence
as i've said before, i agree that violence is violence.

but as i said in previous posts, this thread was made to say that leftists are violent, citing sometimes questionable examples that end 40 years ago, with the intention of dismissing concerns about protesters bringing guns to obama town halls and speeches.

i am just demonstrating that there is a very real pattern of right-wing political violence in the past few months, whereas no one can come up with a single example of left-wing political violence towards people that is less than 35 years old. there is a reason to be worried about people showing up to presidential appearances with guns. that is all i am saying. i'm not saying that all right wingers are violent or that no left winger has ever been violent. but at the present time, it's the fringes of the right who are running around shooting people, not the fringes of the left. that's just a fact.
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Old 08-20-2009, 01:54 PM
 
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you can always read the original sources they link to. that is what i do before i start questioning the credibility of the facts presented in a wikipedia article, even when they don't bolster my political worldview. you should try it sometime.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09102/962297-53.stm

Unlike most 18-year-olds, Mr. Poplawski registered to vote almost as soon as he was legal. His party affiliation was Republican. He voted in the 2004 and 2008 presidential general elections.
for sake of argument, I'll give you that one. The other 2 don't apply.
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Old 08-20-2009, 01:56 PM
 
Location: 3rd rock from the sun
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Also, you need to stop using Wikipedia for hardcaore facts. That is garbage in garbage out alot of the time. I see in there where it says he registered as a Republican, but you know what? I can log in and change that, so how is that accurate beyond a reasonable doubt?
The Wikipedia claim cites this source- The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette:
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"Unlike most 18-year-olds, Mr. Poplawski registered to vote almost as soon as he was legal. His party affiliation was Republican. He voted in the 2004 and 2008 presidential general elections."
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