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Old 09-19-2009, 07:33 PM
 
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Great... then stop forcing it on others who it IS painful for...
You blame ME because YOU have to pay taxes !!!!
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You are NOT forced to pay taxes...you can leave anytime and be sure to write me a postcard from the country you find that has no taxes..

I love this country and believe it's a citizen's responsibility to contribute...Un-patriotic, Anti-Americans whine about their taxes and believe that only they should benefit...it's childish and irresponsible.......
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Old 09-19-2009, 07:37 PM
 
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You blame ME because YOU have to pay taxes !!!!
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You are NOT forced to pay taxes...you can leave anytime and be sure to write me a postcard from the country you find that has no taxes..

I love this country and believe it's a citizen's responsibility to contribute...Un-patriotic, Anti-Americans whine about their taxes and believe that only they should benefit...it's childish and irresponsible.......
I blame you for you trying to increase taxes on select few.. hypocrite... cause that's the truth of the matter, isn't it? You are the ones hiding during the tax hikes since you have been so patriotic as to force the very few to pay it... you want to share the pain... BRING IT ON... stop with your patrotic rhetoric when you have never contributed your fair share... or you will be donating along with the rest of population to put the extra 10% of your wage voluntarily to the Treasury... its put up or shut up time for you now... where's your love now...
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Old 09-19-2009, 07:47 PM
 
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Contrary to popular belief, Swedes are quite OK with their high taxes. After all it gives them tons of free and high quality services – what’s not to be happy about!



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80% in taxes, but the services are free??? How does that work?
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Old 09-19-2009, 07:51 PM
 
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I blame you for you trying to increase taxes on select few.. hypocrite... cause that's the truth of the matter, isn't it? You are the ones hiding during the tax hikes since you have been so patriotic as to force the very few to pay it... you want to share the pain... BRING IT ON... stop with your patrotic rhetoric when you have never contributed your fair share... or you will be donating along with the rest of population to put the extra 10% of your wage voluntarily to the Treasury... its put up or shut up time for you now... where's your love now...
What?....


.......Somebody's all grumpy wumpy tonight and not making a lot of sense...
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Old 09-19-2009, 07:54 PM
 
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Denmark... Number one for being the happiest

Just like Sweden, Denmark is a Nordic welfare state with most of its services free to the citizens. Expect to pay 72% of your money to the government on the highest income tax bracket. According to Wikipedia Denmark has the worlds highest taxes! When buying a car in Denmark one has to pay 25% VAT to the import price of the vehicle and then a 180% registration tax on top. That means when a car sells for $20 000, you have to pay an additional $45 000 as taxes for the government (total of $65 000). That’s why people in Denmark ride bikes or use one of the best public transport systems in the world. Denmark also has 2 autonomous provinces – the Faroe Islands and Greenland. The latter is over 50 times larger than Denmark but has about 100 times less people.

Sweden... Ranked 7th for happiest

This “welfare state” model is an excellent example of effective national taxes. Among other things the state provides universal tax-funded childcare, parental leave, health care, education (including university), retirement pensions and sick leave. Including value added tax (VAT – kind of like sales tax), it is possible to pay up to 80% of your income as taxes. Contrary to popular belief, Swedes are quite OK with their high taxes. After all it gives them tons of free and high quality services – what’s not to be happy about!

The United States... ranked 17th.

Top 10 happiest countries in the world | Financial Jesus

Take home twisted message from the left-

Taxes make you happy!

It is truely amazing that one can make that extrapolation- if A, then B, then C. Again, do we have to review this for you? This is a type 2 logic error and you conclusion has no relevance or truth whatsoever.

I can go over this for you again, if you wish. However, teaching logic and statistics to a liberal may be a little challenging, as you have been indocrtinated in the falacious "logic" of the left. Type 2 logic error assumptions are the favorite tool of propagandists and are particularly appealing to an undereducated audience.
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Old 09-19-2009, 07:54 PM
 
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One of the single quickest ways to make me unhappy is to raise my taxes. So their idea of happiness must differ greatly from mine!

And quit saying the gov't is giving their people free services. Paying 72% taxes is certainly not my idea of free!

I work to make money for myself, to spend how I see fit, to enhance my life as I see fit. I do not work to enhance the welfare of others. They are free to work for their own money to spend as they see fit. To take so much of one's own money to be redistributed by govt is an affront to personal freedom and liberty, and it me makes those who espouse it enemies of the same. Want my money? GTFO with that poisonous attitude!
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Old 09-19-2009, 07:58 PM
 
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One of the single quickest ways to make me unhappy is to raise my taxes. So their idea if happiness must differ greatly from mine!

And quit saying the gov't is givimg their people free services. Paying 72% taxes is certainly not my idea of free!

I work to make money for myself, to spend how I see fit, to enhance my life as I see fit. I do not work to enhance the welfare of others. They are free to work for their own money to spend as they see fit. To take so much of one's own money to be redistributed by govt is an affront to personal freedom and liberty, and ti me makes those who espouse it enemies of the same. Want my money? GTFO with that poisonous attitude!

Exactly- the insane message from the left is that the government, in its infinite wisdom, knows how to spend YOUR money much better than you do.

Liberalism is the tyranny of the government over the individual and the concession of individual thought and initiative to the "wisdom" of the state. How dense would one have to be to believe thier banter? Liberal dumb.
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Old 09-19-2009, 07:58 PM
 
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Oh they jump out of bed every morning and salute the flag and say the pledge...and then spend the rest of the day whimpering and whining about paying taxes because "their" money is being spent on their country and not exclusively on them alone.
and what planet is this on..................they actual spend the rest of the day working their butts off being productive and making this country the most generous in the world, of course I understand that doesnt fit into your negative pessimistic stereotype of this great country.......liberalism ,what a downer...
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Old 09-19-2009, 08:02 PM
 
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Les get real, the obvious reason the Swedes are happy is, all those Blonde Babes!:
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Old 09-19-2009, 08:31 PM
 
Location: Maryland about 20 miles NW of DC
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They didn't actually survey how happy people are. The socialist leaning authors simply assumed the countries with more social programs would be happier.

No they didn't assume anything they asked them and recorded the results. Ypu might be happier if you don't have to worry about where your next meal is going to come from, whether you can pay that pesky mortgage and have a decent home, if you can take the kids to a proper doctor and not one in the bedlam that passes for an American ER or even if your employer is going to send you packing because business is a little slow or the companies profits were down in the last quarter. Most Scandinavians live in a world where these American traditions are just inconceivable so they are happy and look forward to a better tommorow.
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