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Are you saying that all 14 of those states have backed down? It sure sounds like that. Where did you hear that? Kos or ACORN Facts or something like that?
No, I'm saying you have not a clue of what you speak.
What we are seeing are potential investigations that have ZERO to do with voter fraud, which is what the fascist fringe wants everyone to believe that- somehow- this is related to.
The schemtic (Note pun) is so simple in such affairs:
The media, freed from the "burden" of telling the truth by a Fla court ruling in 2003, starts a smear for financial reasons.
See, if the voters are allowed to vote, the GOP will lose- that is the paradigm at this point in our history. The corporate media (if you are watching/listening/reading it in the US, then it's corporate- 95% chance) wants the GOP to win- for financial reasons.
Just like the Viacom's CEO (CBS's former owner said) just before they fired Rather for telling the truth.
Hence, the original story/smear.
Then the smear/story goes out and the fascists and related fringe dutifully pass it along to the "Low Information" population- the Birthers, Townhallers, etc.
And a big hype happens because Akre V Fox News removed ALL sanctions against the media for outright lies.
So, it's necessary to point out the truth. Because people will believe what is true, as long as truth is on the menu. That has also been proven.
Now, the second point:
Tradition said that DA's did not get into "political qiuestions". But that was before the fascists (Dixiecrats) took over the GOP in the late 60's.
Before Karl Rove.
Today, they not only inject themselves into politics, they bring bogus cases (at specific times in the electoral cycle- like now) to sway said elections.
"In a stunning reversal, a federal court of appeals struck down a state worker's fraud conviction that Wisconsin Republicans used in efforts to paint Gov. Jim Doyle's administration as corrupt."
Investigations do not mean what they once did; neither do some convictions.
No, I'm saying you have not a clue of what you speak.
What we are seeing are potential investigations that have ZERO to do with voter fraud, which is what the fascist fringe wants everyone to believe that- somehow- this is related to.
The schemtic (Note pun) is so simple in such affairs:
The media, freed from the "burden" of telling the truth by a Fla court ruling in 2003, starts a smear for financial reasons.
See, if the voters are allowed to vote, the GOP will lose- that is the paradigm at this point in our history. The corporate media (if you are watching/listening/reading it in the US, then it's corporate- 95% chance) wants the GOP to win- for financial reasons.
Just like the Viacom's CEO (CBS's former owner said) just before they fired Rather for telling the truth.
Hence, the original story/smear.
Then the smear/story goes out and the fascists and related fringe dutifully pass it along to the "Low Information" population- the Birthers, Townhallers, etc.
And a big hype happens because Akre V Fox News removed ALL sanctions against the media for outright lies.
So, it's necessary to point out the truth. Because people will believe what is true, as long as truth is on the menu. That has also been proven.
Now, the second point:
Tradition said that DA's did not get into "political qiuestions". But that was before the fascists (Dixiecrats) took over the GOP in the late 60's.
Before Karl Rove.
Today, they not only inject themselves into politics, they bring bogus cases (at specific times in the electoral cycle- like now) to sway said elections.
"In a stunning reversal, a federal court of appeals struck down a state worker's fraud conviction that Wisconsin Republicans used in efforts to paint Gov. Jim Doyle's administration as corrupt."
Investigations do not mean what they once did; neither do some convictions.
Yes, DA's have THAT much power.
So you think Dan Rather told the truth? I don't think we can agree about that but too much of what you said is what I can agree with.
Is there a chance that the AG of the US who was appointed by Obama and the Senate can pull off anything he wants to with Obama having no power to slow him or stop him? I would say that you aren't able to support Obama about that part. Huh?
So you think Dan Rather told the truth? I don't think we can agree about that but too much of what you said is what I can agree with.
Is there a chance that the AG of the US who was appointed by Obama and the Senate can pull off anything he wants to with Obama having no power to slow him or stop him? I would say that you aren't able to support Obama about that part. Huh?
WE can digress about Rather, but the person still alive who was closest to the original story (e.g., Bush's derelction of duty in TANG) said the Rather/Mapes version was the correct one.
From the past actions of AG's, one would say that since (A) of all those who held the offcie ONLY Alberto Gonzalez had been both on the Prez campaign and in the legal machinery of the USA, and (B) Gonzalez had the full support of Dubya (Via Rove) to run his phony "investigations", then no, it has to be a team effort within the Executive Branch.
But that is a hypothetical non-related situation to what we see with the current ACORN smear, for as evidenced from the Biskupic caper, the actions are comenced at the state/local level.
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I wonder how many people here know that they get their government money from Americorps. I think that not many know that but all that money that goes to all the groups like ACORN comes through Americorps. Now that shows me that at least one Bush and Clinton were in cahoots about all that.
It's a single government. The two party system is in name only.
They both have the same powers behind them pulling the strings.
WE can digress about Rather, but the person still alive who was closest to the original story (e.g., Bush's derelction of duty in TANG) said the Rather/Mapes version was the correct one.
From the past actions of AG's, one would say that since (A) of all those who held the offcie ONLY Alberto Gonzalez had been both on the Prez campaign and in the legal machinery of the USA, and (B) Gonzalez had the full support of Dubya (Via Rove) to run his phony "investigations", then no, it has to be a team effort within the Executive Branch.
But that is a hypothetical non-related situation to what we see with the current ACORN smear, for as evidenced from the Biskupic caper, the actions are comenced at the state/local level.
I don't know what you mean by the ACORN smear since no part of what is being said now is untrue. I suppose you think that a couple of kids doing the job of the media for them since they won't do it is a smear. Sorry but even Ms. Lewis knows better than this although in the early days of last week she used the word.
It's a single government. The two party system is in name only.
They both have the same powers behind them pulling the strings.
Sorry but I don't understand what you are saying there. The two party system is in name only right now in that the Dems have control of two of the elements of that government and will soon have the third part.
Now if you are talking about the two party system being make believe then I have to not agree. Yes, both parties have someone pulling strings but it is not the same power at all. The Dems are being jerked around by Soros through his Moveon group and nobody is jerking the Republicans these days but that may change soon.
If we throw away the parties the government will become an anarchy and I don't want to see that. That is not what the founders intended but it could happen, anyway.
I don't know what you mean by the ACORN smear since no part of what is being said now is untrue. I suppose you think that a couple of kids doing the job of the media for them since they won't do it is a smear. Sorry but even Ms. Lewis knows better than this although in the early days of last week she used the word.
The "kids" we paid by Fox.
The tapes are spliced; the woman whom Fox said had, "Killed her husband.", did no such thing.
She thought the two bozos asking the crazy questions were that-crazy.
While she was right, she did not know in all probability that even crazier people would try to make the bogus "info" into a story; would cover it as if it were real.
Note it's at the appeals court level, Fox having lost in the trial court action.
Note that Fox does not dispute the fact that it lied in the newscast.
Note that it "convinces" a crooked Fla Court (six other courts had previously- in other cases- rejected the argument Fox advances here) that nothing in the FCC Rules say that it cannot lie in its newscasts.
That is what this is all about.
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It's a single government. The two party system is in name only.
They both have the same powers behind them pulling the strings.
Somewhat true, although the 72 Progressives in the Congress (65 House, 7 Senate) and some state parties of the former Democratic Party still have the now antiquated notion that this is a governmnet of people, and not corporations.
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