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Old 10-21-2009, 11:42 PM
 
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Wasn't there extenuating circumstances that had the American public supporting Bush 9 months into his Presidency? (A hint: 9/11)
Excellent point.

That was a time when liberals also stood behind our President to support him in the time we needed to be united.

Would conservatives do that today?
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Old 10-21-2009, 11:44 PM
 
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Obama is 50% irish and 50% african. The majority of u.s. Nationals are multiracial. This is why he won the elections and that scared the **** out of the "white" supremacist groups in this country.

Multiracial doesnt mean you are Brown. It means you have ancestors of different races. The majority in usa are light skinned multiracial people.

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Old 10-21-2009, 11:48 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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Why compare Obama's current numbers with Bush's several years into his presidency?

What was Bush's numbers 9 months into his presidency. (A hint: they were higher than Obama's.)

Due to 9/11, his numbers right before 9/11 were very close to what Obama has now.
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Old 10-21-2009, 11:56 PM
 
Location: Illinois Delta
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I never said it was done on here and I did clearly state that I was talking in general.
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"Ugh yet another "every one that dislikes Obama is a raciest" post. It is really getting old not to mention this has been posted MANY times already."
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Indeed, you did mention posting specifically. Later you yourself posted that
"...everyone who disagrees with Obama is called a raciest (sic)."
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The threats against President Obama have been fueled by the extreme right wing in America; small wonder that the number of death threats is so high...people love to hate. Don't fret; I'm sure there will be a post stating that participating here doesn't count...just posting on other forums.
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Old 10-22-2009, 12:02 AM
 
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Wasn't there extenuating circumstances that had the American public supporting Bush 9 months into his Presidency? (A hint: 9/11)
Isnt there currently extenuating circumstances that should have the american public supporting Obama 9 months into his presidency? (hint: a recession that obama claimed we would resolved due to stimulus)
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Old 10-22-2009, 12:08 AM
 
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1. Obama's numbers have been pretty solidly in the low to mid 50's for the past couple of months. Bush hovered in the mid 40's to low 50's from mid 04 to early 05, and was under that for virtually his entire 2nd term. Barely touched 40 his last 3 years in office, most of it in the low to mid 30's range and in the 20's as his Presidency came to an end.
Higher poll numbers dont = racism..
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2. In your opinion. Many of those on the left felt Bush was bringing us down the same dangerous path those on the right feel Obama was doing, and again considering the numbers many more believed Bush was on the wrong path.
And since Obama has CONTINUED down the very same path, except tied a rocket to his car, its no surprise that he would receive more threats. If you disagreed with Bushs policies, you surely will disagree with Obamas, they are almost identical on everything he can claim to have "accomplished" to date..
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3 Race without question is a key factor why he has many more threats. The only reason? perhaps not, but a major factor is clearly race, which is why he had secret service protection so much earlier than everyone else as well.
Says who? He's had secret service protection much earlier because it was obvious that he would become president much earlier than other elections, and because many americans are wacko, on both sides of the aisle, and since liberals have a reason to be more upset with Obama than many conservatives, only a fool would preclude the reason for such threats. You may not mind assuming, but we all know what happens when you assume..

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Old 10-22-2009, 12:15 AM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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Higher poll numbers dont = racism..

And since Obama has CONTINUED down the very same path, except tied a rocket to his car, its no surprise that he would receive more threats. If you disagreed with Bushs policies, you surely will disagree with Obamas, they are almost identical on everything he can claim to have "accomplished" to date..

Says who? He's had secret service protection much earlier because many americans are wacko, on both sides of the aisle, and since liberals have a reason to be more upset with Obama than many conservatives, only a fool would preclude the reason for such threats. You may not mind assuming, but we all know what happens when you assume..

1. When did I say that?? What I stated was Obama is much more popular than Bush was. If it was strictly or mostly policy based you would expect less threats not more, since people as a whole like him more than Bush.

2. He is on a different path entirely. Focusing mostly on the extremely wealthy, the fanatical religious base as well as the war in Iraq were the biggest criticisms of Bush (though far from the only) Obama has reversed course on all of those.

3. Come on now. Even before hand Obama was getting many more threats than anyone. It is obvious it is due to his race, If it wasn't McCain, Clinton, Edwards, etc would have been getting the extra protection earlier, but they didn't, it was just Obama, and you can't say it was due to his policies when it was well over a year before Election Day.
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Old 10-22-2009, 12:18 AM
 
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1. When did I say that?? What I stated was Obama is much more popular than Bush was. If it was strictly or mostly policy based you would expect less threats not more, since people as a whole like him more than Bush.

2. He is on a different path entirely. Focusing mostly on the extremely wealthy, the fanatical religious base as well as the war in Iraq were the biggest criticisms of Bush (though far from the only) Obama has reversed course on all of those.

3. Come on now. Even before hand Obama was getting many more threats than anyone. It is obvious it is due to his race, If it wasn't McCain, Clinton, Edwards, etc would have been getting the extra protection earlier, but they didn't, it was just Obama, and you can't say it was due to his policies when it was well over a year before Election Day.
Why I Hate Barack Obama! Pastor Steven Anderson Sermon | Video Cafe

I guess the man holding the gun is out to get Obama because he's a racist. ooh wait, no, the man holding the gun is black.. who disagrees with his POLICIES.

Ooh wait, here is a huffington post story, showing that not only is threats against Obama up, but even those he associates with, regardless of skin color
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/0..._n_254204.html
One of the country's largest unions has been hit by a wave of hostile calls and even death threats from people upset with its involvement in town-hall health care debates.

The SEIU wasn't the only Obama ally receiving threats on Friday. An official of the AFL-CIO, which has pledged to counter conservative protests at these town hall events across the country, said that union received angry emails throughout the day as well -- mostly accusations that it was promoting communism and socialism.

Are you going to pretend that the unions all became "black" since Obama has been elected to justify their increased threats?

btw, McCain wasnt given secret service until well after it was obvious he would be the nominee. McCain didnt want it, it had to be pushed on him, whereas Obama asked for it well in advance.
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Old 10-22-2009, 12:27 AM
 
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Why I Hate Barack Obama! Pastor Steven Anderson Sermon | Video Cafe

I guess the man holding the gun is out to get Obama because he's a racist. ooh wait, no, the man holding the gun is black.. who disagrees with his POLICIES.

Ooh wait, here is a huffington post story, showing that not only is threats against Obama up, but even those he associates with, regardless of skin color
Obama-Allied Unions Threatened With Gun Violence For Town Hall Participation
One of the country's largest unions has been hit by a wave of hostile calls and even death threats from people upset with its involvement in town-hall health care debates.

The SEIU wasn't the only Obama ally receiving threats on Friday. An official of the AFL-CIO, which has pledged to counter conservative protests at these town hall events across the country, said that union received angry emails throughout the day as well -- mostly accusations that it was promoting communism and socialism.

Are you going to pretend that the unions all became black managed since Obama has been elected?

btw, McCain wasnt given secret service until well after it was obvious he would be the nominee. McCain didnt want it, it had to be pushed on him, whereas Obama asked for it well in advance.

Did I say every threat was racially based? No I did not. What I said was the fact that the increase in the amount of threats against Obama is so much more than the threats against Bush it is more than just policy, especially considering the fact Obama's #'s are much stronger than what Bush had throughout virtually his entire 2nd term. If it was strictly about policy the one whose policy ideas are disliked the most would generally have the most threats.
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Old 10-22-2009, 12:32 AM
 
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Did I say every threat was racially based? No I did not. What I said was the fact that the increase in the amount of threats against Obama is so much more than the threats against Bush it is more than just policy, especially considering the fact Obama's #'s are much stronger than what Bush had throughout virtually his entire 2nd term. If it was strictly about policy the one whose policy ideas are disliked the most would generally have the most threats.
The old cop out, "I never said EVERY THREAT, I said its more than just policy".. Meaning racism..

Wrong on the premace about the polls.. This would be like saying that Adolph Hitler was more popular among his people thereby no one wanted to kill him. (major exageration, absolutely, but maybe you'll get the point).

Where did I say it was "strictly about policy"? I said very clearly that policy is most likely a predominant factor.
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