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Old 11-06-2009, 03:45 PM
 
Location: Over There
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One shout out--one. And not willy nilly, as your posts make it seem; it was to a person who was awarded a Congressional Medal of Honor in the past. That's not a mere shout out and you know it.
It was inappropriate IMO and for the first time he was addressing the issue was in poor taste.



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This I do apologize for. I should have looked at your location beforehand, as I did confuse you with the person who does indeed have pure hatred for Obama. Obviously you must get this a lot. A heavy cross to bear for a username. *L*
It's ok happens all the time. I have asked if I could change my user name but no one ever got back to me.
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Old 11-06-2009, 03:49 PM
 
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Maybe not today. Does the Crusades ring any bells?
...or how the Native American's were treated when the Christians decided they wanted this country for their own?
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Old 11-06-2009, 03:50 PM
 
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It's not exactly accurate to say that's what the press conference was supposed to be about. He was scheduled to speak to the tribal gathering and they turned it into a press conference so he could address the shooting. His remarks regarding the incident were serious, sympathetic and heartfelt.

At the end of the day, all of you are upset because he spoke in an order you found displeasing.

The speech he was scheduled to give was not going to be televised the only reason it was it is because he was addressing the killings. So yes his lack of respect, timing and attitude right out of the gate drew my attention.
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Old 11-06-2009, 03:50 PM
 
Location: On Top
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Geraldo = the voice of reason at FAUX News...


YouTube - Fox Host Suggests Special Screenings For Muslims In The Military
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Old 11-06-2009, 03:53 PM
 
Location: Over There
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You're wasting your time.

This lot and their ilk are still smearing themselves in the cremated ashes of the WTC - and using the victims to further their political bias agsinst anything democratic.

They don't give a **** about the loss of life - then or now.

You are pathetic. i lost loved ones on 9/11 and your post is not only insulting but disrespectful.
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Old 11-06-2009, 03:54 PM
 
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Not one poster here has posted "mildly supporting" Major Hasan...not one. Like LE, posters have looked for information that might explain what caused him to "go postal." That is what will happen when and if he lives to go before a military tribunal, by prosecution and defense alike. What about the shooter in Orlando? Part of a sleeper cell or conspiracy? No. People snap every day...like the mother who drowned her children in the bath tub, one by one. That is very different from Susan Smith, who killled her children because they were inconvenient. Posters have added new information as it became available, but there are no posts suggesting that
Hasan's actions were justifiable in any way, nor attempted to "support"
him. Look for reasons why he might have been predisposed to commit such an atrocity? Yes. He may be a Muslim American, but that does not mean that all Muslims are terrorists or mass murderers, any more than the actions of Andrea Yates equates to all Christian mothers being murderers of their children.
That's a real spin and a twist of reality. Of course not all Muslims are terrorists. Nobody claims that each and every Muslim is a terrorists, not even those who dislike Muslims.
However, be more careful with your comparisons. Andrea Yates, Susan Smith ect. were deeply disturbed women who heard voices and suffered from hallucinations. Here you have a person who was politically motivated. He had many arguments with supporters the war in Iraq and Afghanistan and was deeply upset by the American involvement in those countries. He also expressed his anger many times and gravitated towards the religion of Islam.
If you must make an analogy (you don't really have to) Timothy McVeigh is a better candidate.
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Old 11-06-2009, 03:56 PM
 
Location: Keonsha, Wisconsin
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It's the equivalent of a someone saying "God help me" before doing something.

If a white Christan said "God help me" before murdering someone, would it be an act of terrorism?
Not to be facetious here, but, I did watch a video clip of the bombadier which dropped one of the nuclear devices on Japan during WW2, on the History Channel, with full sound and camera panning the cockpit and all aboard, and while the film was being played, you could hear one of the flight crew say "God, help us all".
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Old 11-06-2009, 03:58 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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That's a real spin and a twist of reality. Of course not all Muslims are terrorists. Nobody claims that each and every Muslim is a terrorists, not even those who dislike Muslims.
However, be more careful with your comparisons. Andrea Yates, Susan Smith ect. were deeply disturbed women who heard voices and suffered from hallucinations. Here you have a person who was politically motivated. He had many arguments with supporters the war in Iraq and Afghanistan and was deeply upset by the American involvement in those countries. He also expressed his anger many times and gravitated towards the religion of Islam.
If you must make an analogy (you don't really have to) Timothy McVeigh is a better candidate.
And having enlisted in the US Military and having those feelings and words should have raised red flags all over the place. Deploying to the ME is the last thing that should have happened to this guy. Too many people, too big a bureaucracy, too easy to get lost in the woodwork. This guy sounds like he should have been discharged years ago and sent for help.
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Old 11-06-2009, 04:00 PM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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Looks like we shouldn't even trust the military with guns.

And it's funny--the guy was described as a psychiatrist, and HE snapped.
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Old 11-06-2009, 04:00 PM
 
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But in the end he turned out to be a mass murdererand nothign else matters. Maybe the administrtion needs to ****ut a memo on college educated people hyas eassy marks for terrorist thinking like that last memo on veterans.
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