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The country of Uganda is considering a law that will apply the death penalty to people who engage in acts of homosexuality. Many Republican Christians in this country are in favour of these laws.
One part of the new law states that, not only does it apply to all acts of homosexuality in Uganda itself, whether committed by a foreigner or a citizen BUT the law also applies to ALL citizens of Uganda no matter WHERE they reside in the world. The law says they shall be EXTRADITED to Uganda to face a possible death sentence. So if 2 homosexuals have a rump romp here in the USA and one of them is from Uganda and the government of Uganda request we extradite that homosexual to face possible death, should the United States honour that request?
Really a very ignorant comment, and shows a complete lack of understanding of how a vast majority feel about the issue. However, it does demonstrate how many of the gay marriage supporters have a "you either favor this or are homophobic" attitude.
You've said that before, but I'm not sure if you ever explained what you meant, exactly. Are you saying that if someone is found out to have had gay sex, he or she is more likely to be injured or killed by other soldiers?
Not Killed - but the liklihood of injuries (by beating) is quite high
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Hm... hopefully any liberal reading this sees the difference between the 'intolerance' in Uganda and the 'intolerance' in the USA.
And ... I'd say the 'intolerance' for gay marriage rights in the USA is not that bad and I'd guess that we won't see mass gay exodus from this country anytime soon.
Because no matter how they want to spin it, of ALL countries this one treats them the best. No, we won't grant them the right to marry, but we will respect their CHOICE better than anyone else in this world.
Gays are treated much better in Europe and Canada than they are here. But I do agree in that they are treated fairly good here compared to lots of other places. But we can do better.
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Really a very ignorant comment, and shows a complete lack of understanding of how a vast majority feel about the issue. However, it does demonstrate how many of the gay marriage supporters have a "you either favor this or are homophobic" attitude.
Very ignorant.
I am not really a gay marriage supporter. Not because I don't like gays but because marriage is none of the government's business in my view. Marriage is a religious thing and belongs in a church.
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I'm sure the majority of the military was also against allowing women and blacks to serve at one time. Besides, as you know, gays are allowed to serve in the military already, including combat; they're just not allowed to be open about their sexual orientation.
Also: There are lots of guys who are mostly straight but occasionally have sex with other guys, so it really would be impossible to ban gays from the military. You never know what people are doing in their free time unless they tell you.
Are there any other occupations or areas where you think gays should be prohibited? Teaching? Adopting kids?
When I was in the USAF there were gays around. Everybody knew they were gay and nobody cared.
I don't believe that. As long as a man carries his weight, does his duty and has the back of the others in his unit, nobody cares if he is gay or not.
I respectfully disagree - the Marines I have spoken to - and it has been whole bunch - Marines who haveb been in combat - they do not want a Gay serving with them.
This isn't an "us versus them" debate to me; maybe you see it that way, though. I think it's sad if you do.
Hm.. I don't sense that too many homosexual activists would like to discuss anything with conservative evangelicals.
Also, someone pointed out Scandinavia as being the role model.
Unfortunately, it appears that people in those countries tend to frown on the traditional marriage.
PREVIEW: The End of Marriage in Scandinavia (http://www.weeklystandard.com/Utilities/printer_preview.asp?idArticle=3660&R - broken link)
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By that measure, Scandinavian family dissolution has only been worsening. Between 1990 and 2000, Norway's out-of-wedlock birthrate rose from 39 to 50 percent, while Sweden's rose from 47 to 55 percent. In Denmark out-of-wedlock births stayed level during the nineties (beginning at 46 percent and ending at 45 percent). But the leveling off seems to be a function of a slight increase in fertility among older couples, who marry only after multiple births (if they don't break up first). That shift masks the 25 percent increase during the nineties in cohabitation and unmarried parenthood among Danish couples (many of them young). About 60 percent of first born children in Denmark now have unmarried parents. The rise of fragile families based on cohabitation and out-of-wedlock childbearing means that during the nineties, the total rate of family dissolution in Scandinavia significantly increased.
So, I'd say in a country with strong family values, gays are tolerated better than they would be in a different country with strong family values.
So, I'd say in a country with strong family values, gays are tolerated better than they would be in a different country with strong family values.
It sounds like you use the term "family values" to mean "not gay". Again, I think that's sad. It's a very harmful mentality to have - harmful not just to gays, but to anyone who questions his or her sexual orientation.
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