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Old 02-15-2010, 08:24 AM
 
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The academic at the centre of the ‘Climategate’ affair, whose raw data is crucial to the theory of climate change, has admitted that he has trouble ‘keeping track’ of the information.

Colleagues say that the reason Professor Phil Jones has refused Freedom of Information requests is that he may have actually lost the relevant papers.

Professor Jones told the BBC yesterday there was truth in the observations of colleagues that he lacked organisational skills, that his office was swamped with piles of paper and that his record keeping is ‘not as good as it should be’.

The data is crucial to the famous ‘hockey stick graph’ used by climate change advocates to support the theory.

Professor Jones also conceded the possibility that the world was warmer in medieval times than now – suggesting global warming may not be a man-made phenomenon.

And he said that for the past 15 years there has been no ‘statistically significant’ warming.
The admissions will be seized on by sceptics as fresh evidence that there are serious flaws at the heart of the science of climate change and the orthodoxy that recent rises in temperature are largely man-made.

Professor Jones has been in the spotlight since he stepped down as director of the University of East Anglia’s Climatic Research Unit after the leaking of emails that sceptics claim show scientists were manipulating data. Read more ...
'Climate-gate' Professor Admits No Global Warming Since 1995 | The FOX Nation


Obama has to stop Cap & Trade immediately and the other non sense they want to tax us all for...and Al Gore should move to an Island and never be heard off!
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Old 02-15-2010, 08:27 AM
 
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Climate change deniers turn themselves inside out trying to convince themselves it isn't real.
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Old 02-15-2010, 08:34 AM
 
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Climate change deniers turn themselves inside out trying to convince themselves it isn't real.
Who's the denier here? Do you know who Phil Jones is and what his research represents?
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Old 02-15-2010, 08:43 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Who's the denier here? Do you know who Phil Jones is and what his research represents?
Do you know who NASA is?

Check it out:

Past Decade Warmest on Record, NASA Data Shows - NYTimes.com
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Old 02-15-2010, 08:43 AM
 
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Who's the denier here? Do you know who Phil Jones is and what his research represents?
Lol, he thinks Phil Jones is a denier Even though the GW scam is falling apart fast there's going to be incredible push-back by these people. This crowd was within months of setting up a cap & trade system that was going to suck billions of dollars out of the West and put it into the hands of third world criminal governments.
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Old 02-15-2010, 08:46 AM
 
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I would certainly like to see some congressional hearings. Phil Jones, Al Gore etc.
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Old 02-15-2010, 08:55 AM
 
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'Climate-gate' Professor Admits No Global Warming Since 1995 | The FOX Nation
Obama has to stop Cap & Trade immediately and the other non sense they want to tax us all for...and Al Gore should move to an Island and never be heard off!
Those liars!

No wonder right wingers enter "misleading" thread titles -- they think it's all right to, since Fox does it.
And no wonder right wingers are so... misled.

Anyway this is already a thread:

//www.city-data.com/forum/polit...there-has.html
He admitted he was disorganized -- he didnt "make a U-turn" by any means.
According to Mr Harrabin, colleagues of Professor Jones said ‘his office is piled high with paper, fragments from over the years, tens of thousands of pieces of paper, and they suspect what happened was he took in the raw data to a central database and then let the pieces of paper go because he never realised that 20 years later he would be held to account over them’.
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...he denied he had cheated over the data or unfairly influenced the scientific process, and said he still believed recent temperature rises were predominantly man-made.
How can any of you say Fox doesnt lie, with headlines like that?
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Old 02-15-2010, 09:03 AM
 
Location: Assisi, Italy
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Those liars!
No wonder right wingers enter "misleading" thread titles -- they think it's all right to, since Fox does it.
And no wonder right wingers are so... misled.

Anyway this is already a thread:
//www.city-data.com/forum/polit...there-has.html
He admitted he was disorganized -- he didnt "make a U-turn" by any means.
According to Mr Harrabin, colleagues of Professor Jones said ‘his office is piled high with paper, fragments from over the years, tens of thousands of pieces of paper, and they suspect what happened was he took in the raw data to a central database and then let the pieces of paper go because he never realised that 20 years later he would be held to account over them’.
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...he denied he had cheated over the data or unfairly influenced the scientific process, and said he still believed recent temperature rises were predominantly man-made.
How can any of you say Fox doesnt lie, with headlines like that?
Where's the beef? Did I miss something? How does this get turned around to disparage FOX and the right?

Express.co.uk - Home of the Daily and Sunday Express | UK News :: The great climate change retreat
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Old 02-15-2010, 09:06 AM
 
Location: Missouri
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Who's the denier here? Do you know who Phil Jones is and what his research represents?
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Do you know who NASA is?
Do you all know who God is or Mother Nature is? You can't ask he or she directly, but you can observe his or hers work since the last ice age. The general trend is warming.

Is mankind making it worse? Who cares. The answer doesn't matter. Warming can't be reversed (by man anyway).

Let's all prepare for the coming weenie roast.
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Old 02-15-2010, 09:07 AM
 
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Where's the beef? Did I miss something? How does this get turned around to disparage FOX and the right?
Express.co.uk - Home of the Daily and Sunday Express | UK News :: The great climate change retreat
The headline of the Fox article is misleading in the extreme.

The article Fox cites simply states that he's a disorganized guy -- see the Mail.uk article in the first thread on this topic, and my quote of it above in post 7.
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