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Old 02-25-2010, 09:05 AM
 
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Consent, the problem here is an act of terrorism is not heroic.

If you accept this as heroism, then by rote, you accept every suicide bomber's act as heroic.
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Old 02-25-2010, 09:08 AM
 
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Constant, the problem here is an act of terrorism is not herioc.


each and everytime the federal goverment sends out the IRS, BATFE, FBI, DEA, EPA, FAA and loads of others agencies it is an act of terrorism.

terrorism upon the people they are supposed to serve, not subjucate.

not all of us are sheep, wish the feds would stop acting like they are above the law.
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Old 02-25-2010, 09:09 AM
 
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each and everytime the federal goverment sends out the IRS, BATFE, FBI, DEA, EPA, FAA and loads of others agencies it is an act of terrorism.

terrorism upon the people they are supposed to serve, not subjucate.

not all of us are sheep, wish the feds would stop acting like they are above the law.

Again, an act of terrorism is not heroic.

Are suicide bombers heroic? Are the terrorists who killed over 3,000 people on 9/11 heroic?

Think about what you are saying here.

Sheep? I think not.
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Old 02-25-2010, 09:18 AM
 
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Again, an act of terrorism is not heroic.

Are suicide bombers heroic? Are the terrorists who killed over 3,000 people on 9/11 heroic?

Think about what you are saying here.

Sheep? I think not.

no act of terrorism is heroic, just criminal. but at the same time, the acts of the federal agencies that murder and cannot be or wont be prosecuted for their crimes are just as criminal.
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Old 02-25-2010, 09:59 AM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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Well monkey then strap on some explosives, grab your gun and go do something """Heroic""" If you don't die in your attempt I'll be glad to hold the rope when they string you up. Talk is cheap
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Old 02-25-2010, 10:22 AM
 
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Well monkey then strap on some explosives, grab your gun and go do something """Heroic""" If you don't die in your attempt I'll be glad to hold the rope when they string you up. Talk is cheap


talk sure is cheap from you as well. why not put a rifle on your shoulder and stand across from your mirror and have him watch you as well.

dont know what a mirror is, then ask a soldier who stood post on a wall or on a border, like me. I dont have anything to prove, to you or anyone else.

what I was trying to say was that just because the feds go out and murder people, it does not mean it is legal. no matter who they think they are.
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Old 02-25-2010, 10:58 AM
 
Location: West Michigan
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each and everytime the federal goverment sends out the IRS, BATFE, FBI, DEA, EPA, FAA and loads of others agencies it is an act of terrorism.

terrorism upon the people they are supposed to serve, not subjucate.

not all of us are sheep, wish the feds would stop acting like they are above the law.
This is just bull. We need agencies like these and most people don't feel terrorize by them.

By the way, my husband was audited by the IRS and ended up getting a HUGE refund. We love the IRS. Was he scared to go to their office? Sure he was, but he also knew he wasn't purposely trying to cheat the government. He also knew that any error on his part could have been corrected and paid off. He made an error alright but a good one---in our favor---as it turned out.
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Old 02-25-2010, 11:23 AM
 
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no act of terrorism is heroic, just criminal.

Exactly, and that's why this guy is absolutely no hero. To put this kind of behavior up as an example of heroism is wrong.
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Old 02-25-2010, 11:29 AM
 
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And Stack had no intention of dealing with the consequences of his action, he knew he would die, and that is the nature of his cowardice.
What some view as cowardice, others see as martyrdom.

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Civil disobedience was in Stack identifying the specific tax laws he disagreed with, and then deliberately breaking those laws, not with the intention of getting away with breaking the law, but with the intention of being punished for breaking the law, but also with the intention of drawing public attention to the injustice of the laws.
I think he got the public's attention.
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Old 02-25-2010, 11:32 AM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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talk sure is cheap from you as well. why not put a rifle on your shoulder and stand across from your mirror and have him watch you as well.

dont know what a mirror is, then ask a soldier who stood post on a wall or on a border, like me. I dont have anything to prove, to you or anyone else.

what I was trying to say was that just because the feds go out and murder people, it does not mean it is legal. no matter who they think they are.
Do TWO tours in Vietnam and three on the Korean DMZ count? I am retired Army. Don't wrap yourself in my flag
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