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Old 03-21-2010, 07:07 PM
 
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Got a few credible links to support your assertion?
search Youtube. lots of Obama "gaffs" and Obamabot mindlessness there. it's a treasure trove of ignorance.
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Old 03-21-2010, 07:08 PM
 
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Jesus Mary and Joseph, I gave you guys the biggest hint!



If it is so blatantly clear, then one would think that somebody could name at ONE specific example. ONE?!?

Government involvement in private industry, what the hell is that suppose to mean, regulation? Yeah, that's an heretofore unprecedented act of this or any other government
You don't need an example because all you're gonna do is deny. it's typical of people like you. can't see the forest for the trees.
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Old 03-21-2010, 07:14 PM
 
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I thnik many are going to be very disappointed if they are judging by present standards of pay for service we have now.i don't see alot of investment coming by medical facilities and providers.Go to any larege urban clici9 and see what is likely avialble for those who don't pay. Large waiting areas and crowds.Take a number and wait anyone?
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Old 03-21-2010, 07:18 PM
 
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Since you don't understand the definition of Incrementalism, here you go:


Main Entry: in·cre·men·tal·ism
Pronunciation: \ˌiŋ-krə-ˈmen-tə-ˌli-zəm\
Function: noun
Date: 1966
: a policy or advocacy of a policy of political or social change by degrees : gradualism
— in·cre·men·tal·ist \-tə-list\ noun
A for english, and a major Fail for explaining socialism.

Next?
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Old 03-21-2010, 07:24 PM
 
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You don't need an example because all you're gonna do is deny. it's typical of people like you. can't see the forest for the trees.
Yeah, reminds of when I was a kid and another kid said he was going to beat me up as soon as his friends let him go.

Simple denials aren't my speed. This is a discussion forum, you present your premise, I will respond. You present your facts, and I will present mine. Pretty simple actually.
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Old 03-21-2010, 08:02 PM
 
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Socailism is the centralized control of the economy by controlling the means and results of production. The difference between it and communism is that in theory control eventaully disappears because its not necessary anymore with communism. The reality is really much different in practice has has been seen.
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Old 03-21-2010, 08:06 PM
 
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Yeah, reminds of when I was a kid and another kid said he was going to beat me up as soon as his friends let him go.

Simple denials aren't my speed. This is a discussion forum, you present your premise, I will respond. You present your facts, and I will present mine. Pretty simple actually.
Sure but there comes a time when FACTS transcend both sides arguments. are you willing to accept the facts and agree with them or spew nonsensical retorts to get rises out of people just to be on the opposition of the debate??
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Old 03-21-2010, 08:07 PM
 
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Socailism is the centralized control of the economy by controlling the means and results of production. The difference between it and communism is that in theory control eventaully disappears because its not necessary anymore with communism. The reality is really much different in practice has has been seen.
perfect.
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Old 03-21-2010, 09:06 PM
 
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Sure but there comes a time when FACTS transcend both sides arguments. are you willing to accept the facts and agree with them or spew nonsensical retorts to get rises out of people just to be on the opposition of the debate??
Ah preconditions.

Shall we have a moderator, tables or podiums?

Cut the crap, you folks make the argument on a public forum. Defend it.
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Old 03-22-2010, 03:53 AM
 
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I defy you to point out one solitary "socialist" item in the healthcare legislation.

One.

I defy you in turn to point out one enumerated power in our Constitution that authorizes the government to enact such legislation.

One.

Hint: The "General Welfare" clause is not an enumerated power and only refers to the government exercising of said enumerated powers.
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