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Obama is not a citizen and he is certainly not a natural born Citizen.
wow, he's not even a citizen now? does this apply to all people who had only one ( or no ) US citizen parent born in the US? what about their children? and their children?
Obama's father never obtained permanent domicil and residence in the United States. Obama is not a citizen based on the WKA decision if he was born in Hawaii.
This is your peculiar interpertation of the Wong Kim Ark ruling. It is not the interpretation shared by others.
To the readers of this thread...Wong Kim Arks parents were permanent residents at his birth, Obama's father was not a permanent resident.
Obots do not want this known. Wong Kim Ark was affirmed a citizen because his parents were permanent residents.
It is clearly seen in the ruling.
To the readers of this thread.
Wong Kim Ark was born in the United States. His parents' residential status had nothing to do with his Wong's citizenship status, and is only noted to observe that they were not members of a diplomatic mission or an invading army which are the two exceptions to citizenship under jus soli.
Dragging Canoe would like to pretend that there are more exceptions to jus soli, and so is deliberately misreading the opinion in Wong Kim Ark. Unfortunately, the two exceptions are the ONLY exceptions that the government has ever followed.
Therefore, Wong Kim Ark's parents were actually beside the point. He was born on American soil, he was born an American citizen, his citizenship was the natural result of his birth, so he was a natural-born citizen. The same is true of the so-called "anchor" babies. The same is true of President Obama.
That's how the current law reads. The law could be changed, and in fact, there is a strong movement that wants it changed so that there will be no more "anchor" babies. But if the law is changed, it will not affect President Obama, or any of the other children already born on American soil who legally are natural-born citizens.
Note: One should not make too much of the "geographical code." It is not meant to be any kind of useable geographical information. The numbering scheme was designed in 1936 (before computers) to make it easier for SSA to store the applications in our files in Baltimore since the files were organized by regions as well as alphabetically. It was really just a bookkeeping device for our own internal use and was never intended to be anything more than that.
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He's never lived there, and has a number issued in years when he wasn't working.
funny Baskin Robins in Honolulu Hawaii, near Washington Intermediate School, would disagree with you. He started working in 1977 when he received his SSN
Dragging Canoe would like to pretend that there are more exceptions to jus soli, and so is deliberately misreading the opinion in Wong Kim Ark.
That is the only thing Birthers can do. Lie and misrepresent, ON PURPOSE, cases that do not support their claims in the first place.
that's why they cling so hard to Minor v Happersett, when the case wasn't about citizenship in the first place (Minor's citizenship wasn't the issue).
Lying, misrepresentation, and making up law and definitions as they go. That's the sign of a group of people who can't accept that a black man is with a foreign sounding name, is our President
senior was deported back to Kenya, he was never a permanent resident or domiciled..he was a transient alien student. Obama is not a citizen and he is certainly not a natural born Citizen.
Everything about Obama is fraudulent...including his social security number.
OK, I've said over and over to the mods that this is not a birther thread, but since they have chosen to allow this birther dialogue to continue, I will respond to the above.
Obama's father was not deported. He left the country voluntarily. Even one of the RWs favorite media, Pajamas, concurs, although their headline uses the word deported, in order to fixate in their reader's minds the idea that the man WAS deported:
and there lies the shining example of confirmation bias in this case.
apply the same thinking to any other topic. if we were talking about auto mechanics we'd have every engineer, mechanic, auto worker and car expert agreeing it's one way while a small handful of jiffy-lube employees ( one of which being comically incompetent ) say it's the exact opposite. who would you believe?
OK, I've said over and over to the mods that this is not a birther thread, but since they have chosen to allow this birther dialogue to continue, I will respond to the above.
Obama's father was not deported. He left the country voluntarily. Even one of the RWs favorite media, Pajamas, concurs, although their headline uses the word deported, in order to fixate in their reader's minds the idea that the man WAS deported:
It's also funny that their own article states that Obama (Jr) was born in Honolulu.
Alien Obama senior requested a visa extension to complete his studies it was denied. He was told to leave the country. It is in the record.
We have Obama's uncle who is here illegally, ordered deported, he obtained a social security number. Obama's aunt was an illegal alien, ordered deported.
Now we have a thread the President of the United States has a fraudulent social security number.
Perhaps...just perhaps his mother knew Obama was not a citizen based on WKA, or he was not born in Hawaii...so..she paid the black market price for a social security number.
Let the courts determine his Constitutional qualifications, investigate the social security number.
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