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Old 02-08-2016, 06:42 PM
 
Location: Northern Wisconsin
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MCO65 was referring to season records, not franchise records in the Super Bowl.

In the 16 game era, I think the statement is correct. (There have been at least two 15-1 regular season teams that lost before the Super Bowl - the 2004 Pittsburgh Steelers in the AFC Championship game, and the 2011 Green Bay Packers in the NFC divisional playoffs.)

In the 14 regular season games era, both the 1967 Oakland Raiders (SB 2) and 1968 Baltimore Colts (SB 3) entered the Super Bowl with one loss (14-1 in the Raiders' case, 15-1 in the Colts' case) and lost in the Super Bowl.
Oh, okay. I misunderstood what mco65 said.
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Old 02-13-2016, 12:00 PM
 
Location: Southern Colorado
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Correct me if I am wrong, but a 12-4 season seems to serve about as well as anything. Leagues best defense being almost unbeatable having gone 10-2 so far. Leagues best offense? Are they even 50/50?
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Old 04-05-2016, 12:18 PM
 
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For other Super Bowl facts there are several teams that won back-to-back Super Bowls.

They are (by season):
* 1966 and 1967 Packers
* 1972 and 1973 Dolphins
* 1974 and 1975 Steelers
* 1997 and 1998 Broncos
* 2003 and 2004 Patriots

There are teams that went to back-to-back Super Bowls: winning one and then losing one the year after they won the Super Bowl:

They are (by season): 1996 and 1997 Packers, 2013 and 2014 Seahawks, 1978 and 1979 Cowboys, 1982 and 1983 Redskins, 1992 and 1993 Cowboys.
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Old 04-06-2016, 12:22 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach, VA
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It is interesting to speculate what would have happed without what appears to be poor officiating but we will never know.
All we can do is move on.
I know a lot of Panthers fans have commented on the officiating in that game, but it's not like the Panthers got no perks of their own. They got away with a lot of holds, to the extent that had they been assessed the 10 yard penalties or not held but given up a sack or rushed pass attempt it's reasonable to argue their offense would have been even more impotent in that game than it actually was.

This is actually true of a lot of the Broncos opponents in 2015. Historically teams with better pass rush will see their opponents draw more holding penalties than those with average or bad pass rushes. The Broncos opponents were assessed below the average for the league in 2015 and far below historical averages. It was perhaps one of the most frustrating things as the 2015 season unfolded: the refs seemed to have forgotten what a holding penalty was. It carried into the Super Bowl and thankfully didn't make a difference. That game could easily have spiraled out of control for the Panthers had they been assessed a few of those holding penalties they got away with. Or not held but given up another big play. So the "bad officiating" was bad both ways.
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Old 05-30-2016, 09:31 AM
 
Location: Virginia Beach, VA
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Here's another fun fact. These teams have all been to 6+ Super Bowls:

Steelers: 6-2
Cowboys: 5-3
Patriots: 4-4
Broncos: 3-5

49ers: 5-1

Of these teams, the Broncos are the only team to have not played a repeat opponent. Eight different Super Bowls, eight different opponents.
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Old 05-30-2016, 11:14 PM
 
Location: Renton - Fairwood, Washington
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In the 16 game era, I think the statement is correct. (There have been at least two 15-1 regular season teams that lost before the Super Bowl - the 2004 Pittsburgh Steelers in the AFC Championship game, and the 2011 Green Bay Packers in the NFC divisional playoffs.)
14-2 Falcons beat 15-1 Vikings in 1998 NFCCG in a game nobody outside of Atlanta thought the Falcons had a chance to win.

Wide left.

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For other Super Bowl facts there are several teams that won back-to-back Super Bowls.

They are (by season):
* 1966 and 1967 Packers
* 1972 and 1973 Dolphins
* 1974 and 1975 Steelers
* 1997 and 1998 Broncos
* 2003 and 2004 Patriots

There are teams that went to back-to-back Super Bowls: winning one and then losing one the year after they won the Super Bowl:

They are (by season): 1996 and 1997 Packers, 2013 and 2014 Seahawks, 1978 and 1979 Cowboys, 1982 and 1983 Redskins, 1992 and 1993 Cowboys.

That jumped out at me immediately even though I'm definitely not a Cowboys fan.

Dallas won XXVII, XXVIII, XXX in 1992, 1993, 1995.

They did win XII and lose XIII in 1977 and 1978. They also did the reverse in losing V then winning VI in 1970 and 1971.
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Old 05-31-2016, 04:47 PM
 
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14-2 Falcons beat 15-1 Vikings in 1998 NFCCG in a game nobody outside of Atlanta thought the Falcons had a chance to win.

Wide left.




That jumped out at me immediately even though I'm definitely not a Cowboys fan.

Dallas won XXVII, XXVIII, XXX in 1992, 1993, 1995.

They did win XII and lose XIII in 1977 and 1978. They also did the reverse in losing V then winning VI in 1970 and 1971.
Cowboys won three Super Bowls under Troy Aikman. Two out of three of those with Aikman were coached by Jimmy Johnson and then later Barry Switzer. The Super Bowl win over Denver in the 1977 season was coached by legendary Tom Landry and QB Roger Staubach.
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Old 06-01-2016, 09:21 AM
 
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Cowboys won three Super Bowls under Troy Aikman. Two out of three of those with Aikman were coached by Jimmy Johnson and then later Barry Switzer. The Super Bowl win over Denver in the 1977 season was coached by legendary Tom Landry and QB Roger Staubach.
I'm fully aware of that. We weren't talking about QBs and coaches though.

I corrected your error with my response.


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There are teams that went to back-to-back Super Bowls: winning one and then losing one the year after they won the Super Bowl:

They are (by season): 1996 and 1997 Packers, 2013 and 2014 Seahawks, 1978 and 1979 Cowboys, 1982 and 1983 Redskins, 1992 and 1993 Cowboys.
The Cowboys won both those games in 1992 and 1993.

XII and XIII in 1977 and 1978 is when they beat Denver then lost to Pittsburgh. The 1979 Cowboys lost in the divisional round. Pittsburgh got back to back rings with the win over the Rams.
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Old 06-01-2016, 10:18 AM
 
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I'm fully aware of that. We weren't talking about QBs and coaches though.

I corrected your error with my response.




The Cowboys won both those games in 1992 and 1993.

XII and XIII in 1977 and 1978 is when they beat Denver then lost to Pittsburgh. The 1979 Cowboys lost in the divisional round. Pittsburgh got back to back rings with the win over the Rams.
I understand. Since Dallas won have Pittsburgh. The Steelers have the most Super Bowl titles.
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Old 01-24-2018, 08:04 AM
 
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Here's a fun read for those of you who are into this sort of thing. This list ranks each franchise's best team to NOT win a Super Bowl. Give it a read and see if you agree or disagree with your team's selection. For my team the 2012 Broncos did jump out as a solid option. The 2005 Broncos would have been a good pick too.

NFL's best teams never to win a Super Bowl - ranking all 32 franchises
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