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A lot of people with clinical depression commit suicide. To say the suicide was triggered by the treatment is a bizarre distortion.
Not researchers, one bloke's opinion.
Bullpucky.
I don't think that you "get" how incredible offensive your posts are. You minimize the illnesses of others by attributing real illness to "inner rage" and "vibrations" and when people get angry and call you opinions what they are, a steaming pile, you get all wounded and offended. People are living with real life struggles, not some Harlequin romance cured-by-crystals inconvenience.
Then why are suicide rates going up in spite of all the millions of drug prescriptions?
And why are more people than ever using mental illness to get on disability handouts when so many drugs are availabe to treat them?
It's not so much that depression doesn't exist -- but what people should do for it. Work is actually great therapy, it really doesn't help depression if you just lay around all day doing nothing. Popping pills gets big Pharma rich but it's not lowering the costs of disability or suicide rates.
For several years suicides have claimed more lives than auto accidents, and the number keeps rising, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).
When rates rise --- that makes you suspect it's not so genetic. And when people are popping more pills than ever before in history and suicide rates "rise sharply", it indicates that the chemicals in these pills are not really fixing some chemical imbalance.
So yes there may be such a thing as depression but the big Pharma solution isn't helping the problem overall.
Many of the mass shootings are probably linked to some kind of depressive disorder -- but how many of the shooters have actually been on some drug or another? I suspect just about all of them.
I have known several people over the years who claim they have a mental illness and take medication to treat their depression. Problem is, all of these people are still depressed and never seem to nail down that perfect drug or perfect combination of drugs to cure themselves or treat the illness to the point they can say they are less depressed. This is because there is no cure for a mythological illness, I think depression is simply a copout and making people into legal drug addicts on meds that can many times make matters worse up to and including suicide. Get clean, its not working. There isn't a cure because its a state of mind for those who believe a pill can make them cope with life, the answer is within and requires belief in oneself and the power of their minds.
I don't believe in the myth of depression, the biggest mental health problem of our time. The problem is a lack of initiative, looking for an easy way out and buying into the 'chemical imbalance' BS. I call BS.
Discuss...
Do you have any proof of this groundless assertion, or is this yet another post that seems to clutter up the City Data forums based upon the notion that "anyone who's having a rough time in life deserves it and is lazy, stupid, uneducated, unskilled, or so on" - because that's sure what it sounds like.
Yes, depression is an illness. I have no idea how anyone can honestly think otherwise. You do know that brain chemistry can affect one's mood, right? Everyone knows that... so why is it so hard to understand that certain chemical imbalances in the brain can lead to depression? Or are you simply denying that altering brain chemistry can alter one's mood and behavior, because if so, you're really out of touch.
Also, your viewpoint seems based in part around the difficulties in treating depression - in other words, since many medications have limited success, "clearly" the illness must not exist. Based on that flawed logic, cancer is also an imaginary illness since it is also hard to treat... great line of reasoning there.
Finally, many people who suffer depression experience at least one, if not multiple trigger events - basically disasters in their lives - that push them from borderline unhappiness into depression. So... are you claiming that these trigger events never happened or that people "lack motivation" when some soul-crushing set-back, with often permanent effects that cannot be undone, actually negatively affects them?
Pray that you never get to experience what true depression is like, even if you still don't believe it exists, because I seriously doubt you have strength enough to withstand such an experience.
I have known several people over the years who claim they have a mental illness and take medication to treat their depression. Problem is, all of these people are still depressed and never seem to nail down that perfect drug or perfect combination of drugs to cure themselves or treat the illness to the point they can say they are less depressed. This is because there is no cure for a mythological illness, I think depression is simply a copout and making people into legal drug addicts on meds that can many times make matters worse up to and including suicide. Get clean, its not working. There isn't a cure because its a state of mind for those who believe a pill can make them cope with life, the answer is within and requires belief in oneself and the power of their minds.
I don't believe in the myth of depression, the biggest mental health problem of our time. The problem is a lack of initiative, looking for an easy way out and buying into the 'chemical imbalance' BS. I call BS.
Pharmaceuticals companies themselves have admitted anti-depressant pills can cause suicides.
[quote=Zimbochick;33703893]A lot of people with clinical depression commit suicide. To say the suicide was triggered by the treatment is a bizarre distortion.
Where do you get your info? Don't trust them! Cannabis is 1 of the best treatments for over 200 medical conditions, proven over & over. Cannabis is really like multiple drugs with over 1,000 strains that can provide different benefits, see the leafly dot com site. This is ultra modern medical science. The THC rates can vary from 0.5% (high CBD) to 93% for "dabs".
I was either born with high anxiety or got it from the multiple vaccines forced on babies by age 1 & have 2 dozen+ medical conditions. Pills only mask depression symptoms & do it with dozens of side effects.
Anxiety in cannabis is only for new users & those who try a stronger variety too much. 1% chance of anxiety/panic attack. 0 deaths, sure beats pills that kill 125,000 Americans a year.
26% of those who say they use cannabis for medical purposes say they use it to treat depression, and you know depression can lead to suicide. Best wishes.
I went to college for 7 years, and I work with mental patients in a hospital. Don't get me wrong, I smoked plenty of bud in my younger days, but I eventually grew up and pulled my head out of my $%#.
Legal pot only applies to 2 states so far. Elsewhere, police union bribes governor to veto legal pot even for some medical purposes, so people kill themselves. Never heard of anyone committing suicide while under influence of cannabis. Many police & pols consider public as The Enemy. Best wishes.
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Originally Posted by malamute
In spite of millions of prescriptions -- legal pot, and billions of dollars spent on pills:
For several years suicides have claimed more lives than auto accidents, and the number keeps rising, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).
I guess that mental illness you worked around is contagious. I really should be as nasty to you as you are to me. I've read 10,000 pages on the subject over 10 years, you watched a 6 second video. How could you even get a job when you have no clue about mental illness & medicine? You refuse to learn.
I did quit smoking pot last 2 years involuntarily, that's why I can't stand to live anymore. It's the only thing that helped me very much. I've had 62 miserable years. I have 24+ medical conditions, Big Pharma made me worse.
The Best Marijuana Documentary You Will Ever Watch has Dr. Lester Grinspoon, 85 year old MD & assoc. prof Emeritus from Harvard Medical School, who has specialized in studying this plant since 1967. His website rxmarijuana dot com has letters from patients saying it helped better than pills for over 120 conditions. Wikipedia has some good info. Granny Storm Crow's list has maybe 1,500 real studies, 94% of studies thru govt were fake as Big Pharma got to decide who gets research money.
Cannabis oil can cure most fatal illnesses, see Rick Simpson oil & Run From The Cure. Check out if interested Cannabinoids Research on You Tube, discussion by experts about what they've learned. 8 cannabinoids treat cancer, which 60% of Americans get. Cancer is very depressing, you know.
If you smoked plenty of bud in your younger days, then grew up, it is obvious you had none of the over 200 medical conditions it has been proven to help. Mental hospitals push fake &/or harmful pills, so of course they hate Big Pharma having competition from cannabis.
It sounds like you were 1 year short of getting a medical degree in college? Of course medical school just lets students know what specialist Docs & Big Pharma want them to know.
Please give me a refund on the free advice. It was not worth that much. If I wanted to give people BS, I would not have needed to do all the research I have done. Best wishes.
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Originally Posted by lucky4life
I went to college for 7 years, and I work with mental patients in a hospital. Don't get me wrong, I smoked plenty of bud in my younger days, but I eventually grew up and pulled my head out of my $%#.
Also, everything you typed is major BS. If you really have problems with anxiety................Quit smoking the pot! That's free advice kid
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