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Old 10-28-2017, 09:16 PM
 
Location: The point of no return, er, NorCal
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https://qz.com/1113287/boys-arent-le...-consequences/

These young men need to learn that dealing with rejection is part of what it means to be a man. Sure, women deal with rejection too but the way our social structure is set up, its the men who do the asking, so...
Plenty of women ask and put themselves out there. Rejection is just part of life and something we face at various points in life, and we need to have the emotional and mental awareness and maturity to deal with it.

I've had many men get upset when I declined their advances or offer to meetup. Not only did a lot of these men not accept the "no," they took it as an attempt to just try harder, because persistence is key, apparently. It goes back to the whole "play hard to get" nonsense that not everyone buys into. I didn't play games and act coy. If I was interested, they'd know it, and if not, I said as much.

Telling someone to die in a fire because they decline an invitation to go on a date is more than a bit much. Going all fatal attraction is just not a mindful way to handle rejection, either.
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Old 10-28-2017, 09:18 PM
 
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I'll take it one farther

Boys aren't learning to deal with emotion.
Which isn't compatible with a highly emotional society.
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Old 10-28-2017, 09:25 PM
 
Location: The point of no return, er, NorCal
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Young people in general are being shielded from the reality of life through too much helicopter parenting and "we don't keep score" and everyone gets a trophy mentality. It's all horsecrap. Life sucks, sometimes you lose and you have to be taught that you have to learn to accept failure, rejection and all of the other things that life throws our way. We're doing our kids a disservice the last generation or two in this regard.

Fall, lose, get rejected, whatever it is, we need to teach our kids to get up, realize that it's ok to fail or whatever but to get back into the saddle of life and be ok with failure in that regard. It's not the end of the world to have hurt feelings once in a while and that no one in life gives a flying you know what about your feelings in the big wide world.
You do realize this isn't a young people thing, right? I've had grown men, in their upper 30s and 40s, before the days of the tedious diatribes of helicopter parenting and participation trophies, act like first-rate douchebags because they get turned down.

Trying to make this into a generational thing just doesn't work.
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Old 10-28-2017, 09:26 PM
 
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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Young people in general are being shielded from the reality of life through too much helicopter parenting and "we don't keep score" and everyone gets a trophy mentality. It's all horsecrap. Life sucks, sometimes you lose and you have to be taught that you have to learn to accept failure, rejection and all of the other things that life throws our way. We're doing our kids a disservice the last generation or two in this regard.

Fall, lose, get rejected, whatever it is, we need to teach our kids to get up, realize that it's ok to fail or whatever but to get back into the saddle of life and be ok with failure in that regard. It's not the end of the world to have hurt feelings once in a while and that no one in life gives a flying you know what about your feelings in the big wide world.
^This^
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Old 10-28-2017, 09:33 PM
 
Location: So Cal
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You do realize this isn't a young people thing, right? I've had grown men, in their upper 30s and 40s, before the days of the tedious diatribes of helicopter parenting and participation trophies, act like first-rate douchebags because they get turned down.

Trying to make this into a generational thing just doesn't work.
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^This^
Funny to see the black and white contrast of opinions here.
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Old 10-28-2017, 09:46 PM
 
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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Funny to see the black and white contrast of opinions here.
Yeah, Lol.

I do strongly believe its parenting failure, whether the person is 20 or 85.
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Old 10-28-2017, 10:04 PM
 
Location: Jacksonville
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You miss 100% of the shots you don't take.

In 2015-2016, the best goal scorer in the NHL scored 50 goals. It took him 398 shots to score 50 goals, and those were just the shots that either hit the goalie or the back of the net. That's not even counting the attempted shots, which were blocked, or hit the glass or that just missed the net completely. So he scored 50 goals, and the goaltender's still SAVED 348 of his shots that year. If you count attempted shots, he scored 50 out of 691 times that he shot the puck. He only scored a goal on 1 out of every 8-ish shots on goal. And he's the best in the league at scoring goals, and he still has only scored a goal on 12.4 percent of his career shots on goal. And then last year, he had a bad year for his standards. Only score 33 goals on 313 shots on goal and 582 shots attempted.

I always use this analogy with rejection. Even the best, they get rejected and sometimes they get rejected A LOT.
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Old 10-28-2017, 10:12 PM
 
Location: So Cal
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Yeah, Lol.

I do strongly believe its parenting failure, whether the person is 20 or 85.
I agree, bozos exist at all ages. The difference is with today is just look at college campuses across the nation. Freedom of speech is under attack. Safe spaces and micro-aggression accusations all over the place. People can't handle differing opinions without causing so much distress. This stuff is much newer. This lack of civivilty stems from being somewhat isolated from the discomfort of dealings with things that make us uncomfortable. All of this would appear to circle back to some over protection on some level.
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Old 10-28-2017, 10:22 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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The problem is there are too many fatherless homes headed by single mothers. Boys are too emotional because they take their emotional/behavioral cues from women. Whatever happened to the Big Brother, Big Sister programs? Those programs were life savers for my brothers and I after our father passed when we were kids.
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Old 10-29-2017, 12:58 AM
 
Location: around
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Neither are girls , there just as many threads in any forum with girls moaning as there are with boys. Actually maybe more from what l've seen.
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