Psychopathic traits associated with dating success in males.

[RbccL]

Originally Posted by zentropa

But dads need to know exactly how slutty their sons' female classmates are! In detail! It's their responsibility to investigate!

Yes, they’re going to need proof of underage nudes in order to know which kids to condemn. The ones being taken advantage of course.

[RamenAddict]

Originally Posted by Sonic_Spork

Ohhhkayyy. So since some guys only understand things if you do this exercise, how bout this for ya...

One of your daughters was dating a boy and he persuaded her to send him a graphic nude video or photo. Unfortunately, he shared it with others. You hear that a dozen Dads out there looked at it. You have no idea how many of them were perving on it, hey maybe they were just "curious"... How do you feel about that?

Do you think she deserves to be ground into the dirt with humiliation because she trusted one boy she shouldn't have?

There have been suicides over this kind of thing.

Kids make mistakes. But apparently only girls should be expected to pay for them.

You put more accountability and responsibility for judgment on the head of a female child than on that of a grown arse man.

Bet you're no "bad boy" type either. You sound like a real upstanding moral citizen. By the by, to kinda circle round, this is the sort of thing I was talking about. I've heard more like this from the clean cut church going set than EVER from my own "delinquent" circles.

But hey. Psychopaths, right?

I can’t even suspend my disbelief over that poster’s statement. Certainly many teens are sexually active, but consenting to THOSE activities in no way equates to consent to being photographed or videotaped and having it shared with the entire HS class and possibly others. This is classic victim blaming/shaming. You do one thing “wrong” and therefore you have implicitly consented to the bad things happening to you. That should never be how it works, especially with children. Why not place the blame where it needs to be- on the boys (or legally adult young men) who are taking the videos and sharing them.

[Toxic Waltz]

I'm not sure how this thread shifted from being about women liking bad boys to men being child exploiters and girls sending nude selfies being victims of sex crimes.

Yes parents need to teach their sons not to exploit girls and their daughters to have the self respect not to send nude selfies to boys, whether for approval or through pressure or by their own agency. Parents also have to teach their daughters not to use the influence their budding sexuality gives them over boys in an exploitive manner as well. Girls do stupid things to impress boys and boys do stupid things to impress girls. This is nothing new.

We also need to teach our teens of both sexes that these types of pictures being sent at their age is treated very seriously by the law and can have very powerful legal ramifications. It's still considered child porn even when a teen sends it to another teen. And no, fathers shouldn't be using "well I just needed to know what they were up to" as an excuse for looking at those pictures. Mom can check the phone instead of dad if there is a need to know if that content exists on their phones.

We also need to remember that this thread is not about teen nude selfies it's about women wanting to mate with psychopathic males.

[moongirl00]

The thread is about high school girls being sexually active with psychopaths.

The realization that there is a chance a lot of this activity is nonconsensual, coerced, or forced, given that psychopaths lack a conscience and tend to exploit people and commit crimes (including sexual assault, rape, and revenge porn, which are all crimes) makes the past few pages of posts very much on topic.

[tamajane]

Originally Posted by Toxic Waltz

I'm not sure how this thread shifted from being about women liking bad boys to men being child exploiters and girls sending nude selfies being victims of sex crimes.

Yes parents need to teach their sons not to exploit girls and their daughters to have the self respect not to send nude selfies to boys, whether for approval or through pressure or by their own agency. Parents also have to teach their daughters not to use the influence their budding sexuality gives them over boys in an exploitive manner as well. Girls do stupid things to impress boys and boys do stupid things to impress girls. This is nothing new.

We also need to teach our teens of both sexes that these types of pictures being sent at their age is treated very seriously by the law and can have very powerful legal ramifications. It's still considered child porn even when a teen sends it to another teen. And no, fathers shouldn't be using "well I just needed to know what they were up to" as an excuse for looking at those pictures. Mom can check the phone instead of dad if there is a need to know if that content exists on their phones.

We also need to remember that this thread is not about teen nude selfies it's about women wanting to mate with psychopathic males.

Even as a mom I would not look at those pictures, it's still illegal and just gross to knowingly look at them just to identify which girls are doing it.. It's not even my business unless I intend to report it to authorities. My business would be getting my son to delete all of those types of images permanently and teach him about how wrong and damaging this is. I would be sending the wrong message by looking at them myself, they just need to be purged. I know it is difficult for boys to do this, what they used to go through to just to get a peek at some nudie magazines, and now girls they know are sending them high def naked pics and free porn. It's really disturbing.

As far as psychopathy, I think something like this can be related, and change the way boys think about woman and how they treat them. And as far as adult men looking at these pics, that is also a problem. Now I wonder how often that happens, a teenage boy showing his dad/uncle/older neighbor such photos- maybe it gives the boy some kind of status and male pride that he has them.

[Toxic Waltz]

Originally Posted by moongirl00

The thread is about high school girls being sexually active with psychopaths.

The realization that there is a good chance a lot of this activity is nonconsensual, coerced, or forced, given that psychopaths lack a conscience and tend to exploit people and commit crimes, makes the past few pages of posts very much on topic.

I was not attracted to psychopaths as a high school girl, let alone having sex with them.

I think we do girls a disservice when we don't let them own their own bad decisions. Same with boys of course. It's not one or the other. It's not a crime on a boy's part when a girl makes a bad choice in sleeping with him or even sending an inappropriate picture to him, and girls are as capable of luring boys in to bad decisions as boys are with girls.

It's up to each individual to make their own decisions and up to parents to help them navigate through it all. This includes teaching them not to send lewd pictures and not to share those pics with the class if someone sends one to you.

I've heard of instances of boys sending lewd pics to a girl and the girl and all her friends looking at the pics together either in admiration or mockery. Let's not pretend pic sharing is unique to one sex, nor is sending the pics themselves.

[fleetiebelle]

Originally Posted by Toxic Waltz

I think we do girls a disservice when we don't let them own their own bad decisions. Same with boys of course. It's not one or the other. It's not a crime on a boy's part when a girl makes a bad choice in sleeping with him or even sending an inappropriate picture to him, and girls are as capable of luring boys in to bad decisions as boys are with girls.

I don't think that anyone would deny that teenagers of all kinds make bad decsions for dumb reasons, but there is rightly pushback on the theme of, "My fine, upstanding son has to resist temptation from these teen Jezebels who are just throwing themselves at him left and right!" There are Mean Girls, but there are boys who are no angels, either.

[PJSaturn]

Thread closed at OP's request. I agree that it's time to close it. It's also been moved from Relationships to Psychology, since it has little to do with the former.