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Old 04-19-2015, 04:23 PM
 
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Anyone have experience with BYOD for 3rd grade? Our school is a pilot for this program and I am interested in what people think?
My child has a mini iPad (older one) but before I would let it to go to school- I would need to buy a stronger case. Right now, she just has the Apple magnetic flip one.
Would you suggest an Otterbox Defender or something else?
I have not yet went to any school meetings on the subject.
I am guessing that the majority of her class will participate.

Thanks!
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Old 04-19-2015, 04:54 PM
 
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Keep in mind if you are not OK with letting her bring her device to school, you don't have to - the school will have to provide a device if needed.

My kids middle school is piloting it as well and this is the policy there.

For a case, otter box is very good. I have one on my phone and it has survived many drops onto tile, concrete and asphalt.
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Old 04-19-2015, 05:36 PM
 
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Devices in 3rd grade (BYOD or otherwise)?

Perhaps it is inevitable.
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Old 04-19-2015, 05:43 PM
 
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Kids should earn subsidies to pay for the devices based over time based on their grades and academic performance. If they drop and break them, they must resort to cheaper learning tools. This way they grow up with a better work ethic. If the schools hand them to them, we teach them that taxpayers will buy them trendy electronic goodies. If parents buy them outright, we teach them mommy and daddy will give them handouts when need be.

I guess if those last two choices are the only options, bring your own funded by Mom and Dad is preferable, assuming their supplies aren't auto-replenished when dropped and broken without repercussion.
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Old 04-19-2015, 06:34 PM
 
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Kids should earn subsidies to pay for the devices based over time based on their grades and academic performance. If they drop and break them, they must resort to cheaper learning tools. This way they grow up with a better work ethic. If the schools hand them to them, we teach them that taxpayers will buy them trendy electronic goodies. If parents buy them outright, we teach them mommy and daddy will give them handouts when need be.

I guess if those last two choices are the only options, bring your own funded by Mom and Dad is preferable, assuming their supplies aren't auto-replenished when dropped and broken without repercussion.
Actually, the I believe the only options are: Supply from home or school supplies it. So if you drop and break the one supplied from home (or it gets stolen), and you can't supply another one, the school must supply one. It's no different than a calculator. The classes require that the students use it. Not having one isn't an option.

My dd's middle school is piloting it, and I hate it. We got an e-mail from one of the teachers asking parents to remind their kids not to text, watch videos, etc. on their device. Um...you allow the devices in the school - you enforce the rules. I'm not there and I didn't make the rule that they needed to bring one.

I cannot even imagine allowing my 4th grader to bring her device to school. It would be lost/stolen/broken in a week.
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Old 04-19-2015, 07:00 PM
 
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My son's teacher mentioned that they were considering this for his school and asked if I'd consider sending his ipad. Um, no. he is in a full special ed class of kids from 6 different grades and a wide range of needs (awful, I know) and if it gets damaged, the school is not responsible. Since I am no longer working my real job, we can't afford to replace it if it gets broken or stolen.
His first case was an otterbox and it cracked, not even due to dropping. (No I didnt save the box, paperwork, etc for it so it was trash in only a few months.)
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Old 04-19-2015, 07:03 PM
 
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Actually, the I believe the only options are: Supply from home or school supplies it. So if you drop and break the one supplied from home (or it gets stolen), and you can't supply another one, the school must supply one. It's no different than a calculator. The classes require that the students use it. Not having one isn't an option.
Actually it's very different from a calculator -- in price! Even when pocket calculators first emerged and they were new technology, the cost, even adjusted for inflation, is not even close.

Plus back then, they wouldn't allow calculators in school because it resulted in stupid kids that could never learn to do math on paper, never really had a chance to learn the concepts to understand the logic behind the math because the machine did the hard part for them.

And now they want them to "learn" on iPads? Scary.

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My dd's middle school is piloting it, and I hate it. We got an e-mail from one of the teachers asking parents to remind their kids not to text, watch videos, etc. on their device. Um...you allow the devices in the school - you enforce the rules. I'm not there and I didn't make the rule that they needed to bring one.

I cannot even imagine allowing my 4th grader to bring her device to school. It would be lost/stolen/broken in a week.
My question is that if the school (ahem I mean taxpayers) must supply one of these inordinately expensive devices to each child, then what is the motivation of the parent to risk buying an expensive device, only to have it broken or stolen? Why not just let the school assume that risk from the get go?

Not that I am in favor of that, I'm just wondering why a parent would bother at all.
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Old 04-19-2015, 07:50 PM
 
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Also, in our school- each classroom has 4 iPads each and I think about 4 laptops too.
All supplied by the PTA (parents money).
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Old 04-19-2015, 09:51 PM
 
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Actually, the I believe the only options are: Supply from home or school supplies it. So if you drop and break the one supplied from home (or it gets stolen), and you can't supply another one, the school must supply one. It's no different than a calculator. The classes require that the students use it. Not having one isn't an option.

My dd's middle school is piloting it, and I hate it. We got an e-mail from one of the teachers asking parents to remind their kids not to text, watch videos, etc. on their device. Um...you allow the devices in the school - you enforce the rules. I'm not there and I didn't make the rule that they needed to bring one.

I cannot even imagine allowing my 4th grader to bring her device to school. It would be lost/stolen/broken in a week.
That's what's so tough about BYOD in younger grades. It takes time for kids to learn how to care for and transport costly electronic devices.

My kids got cell phones early. Then, the younger two got iPod Touch devices. Then, handed down iPhones (my eldest was 17 when the first iPhone was released. He bought his own. Still has it stored away. He's a collector.)

My younger two got handed down iPhones in 2010 when they were 10 and 13.

They're 14 and 17 now, and my 14yo also has a handed down iPad and a MacBook Air that she paid half for in order to get it. My 17yo has his iPhone (both kids have the 5s) and a Windows laptop he bought himself last year.

Of all 3 of mine, the only one to wreck an iPhone so far is my 17yo. He dropped his 5C in the toilet (it was flushed already...LOL). He bought himself a new 5s at full price. Kid is a big time saver of money so he had it to pay.

We're really gadget-y around here, so they've grown up learning to be careful with their devices.

They also know they'll have to pay for a new device or the AppleCare+ fee if they damage one.

It's tough, though. Some kids (and adults) are much more prone to accidents and incidents than others and these devices are not cheap.

If the schools are insisting on them, they should be supplying them.
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Old 04-20-2015, 05:06 AM
 
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My question is that if the school (ahem I mean taxpayers) must supply one of these inordinately expensive devices to each child, then what is the motivation of the parent to risk buying an expensive device, only to have it broken or stolen? Why not just let the school assume that risk from the get go?

Not that I am in favor of that, I'm just wondering why a parent would bother at all.
The schools via the county do not provide them. The PTA usually furnishes them for the school. Look at the schools that are piloting BYOD, see any that are in low income areas?

Under BYOD the school must provide a device - part of the contract is that kids are not allowed to share devices brought from home. A child may not have a device because the child doesn't have one OR because the parent does not want them bringing it.

I've not gotten any communication like Tinka has (kids are at same school) but it sounds like that teacher isn't making good use of the "parking" rules.
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