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I can tell you right now, that's not going to fly. I agree with you, but it's not going to fly in today's world.
Whether it "flies" in today's world or not, the reality is simply that ICU capacity is overloaded in several states, and people who need a bed are getting turned away. ICUs are full of unvaxxed people now, and there are more people who need critical care nursing than there are medical staff who can treat them. People are already dying who would have otherwise been able to get the necessary help. Triaging is a necessary step when there are more sick people than resources.
1. People are dug in. To the point of threatening violence.
2. There are entire cottage industries now where people are getting insiders (pharmacists etc) to fraudulently enter people into the system with real vax lot numbers) and people are paying for "real fake" vax cards. There is a massive ring out of NYC and FL the FBI is already investigating.
3. Mandates are going to **** people off (although at this point I don't give a fug about that).
4. C12 has now made its presence known and seems to be on the horizon....lube up kids. Rinse, repeat.
I think we still have to figure how to encourage, not coerce.
I'm not going to lay the blame on "Black people" (and/or Hispanic), but if they're over-represented in catching Covid and bad outcomes, then they need to be as fully-vaxxed as the > 65 crowd who ... also needs to increase their vaccination, and get the boosters.
I do wonder how some feel about the Covid-positive but recovered < 65 crowd, since the information seems to show they have good levels of immunity, levels that may exceed vaccinated folks. Should they be denied medical coverage?
The CDC estimated 120MM as of 5/31/21 (their median figure, 103MM was the low figure). On that date, we had only reported 34MM. Without the 65+ (whose immunity seems to wane), it's about 90MM cases.
So we're talking ~60MM uncounted infections that likely have "good" immunity.
People who have had covid are encouraged to get vaxxed before 6 months has elapsed, and some medical experts advise faster than that. Immunity only lasts so long, and over time it will wane.
Whether it "flies" in today's world or not, the reality is simply that ICU capacity is overloaded in several states, and people who need a bed are getting turned away. ICUs are full of unvaxxed people now, and there are more people who need critical care nursing than there are medical staff who can treat them. People are already dying who would have otherwise been able to get the necessary help. Triaging is a necessary step when there are more sick people than resources.
there are an unacceptable level of Covid patients in the ICU.
There are certainly hospitals that have completely-full ICU's on any given day. There are states that have an uncomfortable level of ICU usage. FL and TX for example show only 6% ICU availability. Alabama is exceeding capacity (overloaded), but I don't see (and welcome the education) any others > 100%.
Thankfully in NC, the hospitalized # is stabilizing, as are the ICU's and the daily admissions. But we are still seeing almost half the admissions > 65 yrs old.
So again, whether it's encouragement or communication, I'd sure like to think the 65+ unvaxxed in NC would want very specific language used - it's not just "hospitalization of the unvaxxed", it is "hospitalization of the 65+ and unvaxxed, or those who need boosters." Heck, they can add "if you're unvaxxed and get vaxxed now, you should have 6 months of good immunity and Covid may have gone way down again like it did in the spring."
So agin, whether it's encouragement or communication, I'd sure like to think the 65+ unvaxxed in NC would want very specific language used - it's not just "hospitalization of the unvaxxed", it is "hospitalization of the 65+ and unvaxxed, or those who need boosters." Heck, they can add "if you're unvaxxed and get vaxxed now, you should have 6 months of good immunity and Covid may have gone way down again like it did in the spring."
People who refuse to get a vaccine usually won't respond to anything until or unless Covid hits them personally, either getting it themselves and having their health significantly impacted for longer than a month, or a losing a loved one. Personal impact has been what moves the needle to the other side. Otherwise, they just keep moving the goalposts no matter what. Whatabout-itis. Logic doesn't seem to penetrate.
And, it begins. Duke just announced that all faculty and staff except for those with medical or religious exemptions must be vaccinated. Those who won't get vaccinated will be fired and will not be rehired. I am pretty sure other orgs will do the same soon.
People who refuse to get a vaccine usually won't respond to anything until or unless Covid hits them personally, either getting it themselves and having their health significantly impacted for longer than a month, or a losing a loved one. Personal impact has been what moves the needle to the other side. Otherwise, they just keep moving the goalposts no matter what. Whatabout-itis. Logic doesn't seem to penetrate.
in the last 2 months, ~617K in NC have gotten their first shot - and that's months after everyone was eligible. Now, for us "pro-vax" folks, that's still way too low. But what if it was presented optimistically? "You are not alone."
There is a very small cadre of long-time "anti-vaxxers". They may have shown, over time, to exhibit behaviors just like you describe. But I for one am not ready to assume there's some multiple of that that are now suddenly anti-vax.
I do believe there's a strong contingent of "I had/think I had Covid, so I'm good to go." Whether that's accurate (lasting immunity) or not hasn't been shown. I googled and read a few articles, and there was nothing data-driven telling me immunity wanes among the < 65 crowd or the vaccine provides better immunity.
Your logic (or my logic) may not penetrate, but the question is what logic are they using?
Undoubtedly, there's some hardcore folks that have read confirmation-bias stories and so they aren't getting vaxxed. I just don't have any reason to believe that's ~ 30% of the adult population. Heck, we're probably ALL college-educated here, so it's no surprise we've gotten vaxxed at the highest rate of any demographic. But if we shove "see, we're smarter than you!" or "You're welcome, I'm vaxxed!" at the HS dropouts and HS degree holders (who trail us by 20 points) that are the majority of citizens, we're probably not going to make progress. We've got to understand why they haven't.
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