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Like michgc said, the J&J trials were done more recently, and in locations where the virus had time to change it's spike protein structure. Moderna and Pzifer trials were done many months ago and in areas where there was confirmed be no changes to the virus - the original Wuhan strain.
You can't directly compare their efficacy numbers. But I understand the "peace of mind" process people go through with numbers.
I'm on every freaking waiting list that exists, so maybe I'll be lucky.
This shows how poorly the vaccine distribution is being handled. Why should we have to sign up for multiple lists across the state? (I'm guilty as well, signed up in Durham, Wake, Chatham and Lee). Think of all the time and effort wasted as every county and health care system has their programmers create/support the web pages used to sign up.
I'll stay out of the political issues of blame, but we have had a year to plan for this, and have failed both on the Federal and State level.
This shows how poorly the vaccine distribution is being handled. Why should we have to sign up for multiple lists across the state? (I'm guilty as well, signed up in Durham, Wake, Chatham and Lee). Think of all the time and effort wasted as every county and health care system has their programmers create/support the web pages used to sign up.
I'll stay out of the political issues of blame, but we have had a year to plan for this, and have failed both on the Federal and State level.
Big picture but besides Israel, UAE and UK we are doing much better at vaccinations than other countries. The vaccine rollout in Europe has been a disaster.
Big picture but besides Israel, UAE and UK we are doing much better at vaccinations than other countries. The vaccine rollout in Europe has been a disaster.
Israel is, But UAE is already showing problems with Sinopharm which went to ~60% of it's population already requiring a third dose. The per 100 vaccinations of the UK is nearly the same as the US. Everyone else is way below.
Big picture but besides Israel, UAE and UK we are doing much better at vaccinations than other countries. The vaccine rollout in Europe has been a disaster.
Absolutely. I was surprised with how haphazard and piecemeal things are here that we are doing that much better than most countries, but I guess that is American financial and political power. Even when we have a messed up system, you put enough strength behind it, and I guess we can kinda get it done, at least partially. Combined with the appalling number of people in the US who got COVID plus the vaccine rollout maybe we will come closer to reaching herd immunity sooner rather than later.
Absolutely. I was surprised with how haphazard and piecemeal things are here that we are doing that much better than most countries, but I guess that is American financial and political power. Even when we have a messed up system, you put enough strength behind it, and I guess we can kinda get it done, at least partially. Combined with the appalling number of people in the US who got COVID plus the vaccine rollout maybe we will come closer to reaching herd immunity sooner rather than later.
Hope that J&J vax can get cranking and can get to the countries that don't have the refrigeration for the Moderna and Pfizer.
It is terrible how Europeans are being so reluctant about getting vaccinated. My uncle and his family live in the Netherlands and apparently the vaccine hesitancy rate is so high it's crazy. He says the people you do not usually expect to be that staunch about things that are backed by scientific evidence, highly educated professionals do not want to get it. It's seems so backwards to me. The recent rejection or back-pedalling on Astrazeneca shows that even their governments aren't fully on board with this. The blood clotting and pulmonary problems were detected in less than 50 patients. That number is so ridiculously low and that it shouldn't have triggered such panicked response. Their governments should have had some solid, clear headed response to this, instead of creating a domino effect in stopping the vaccine and losing people's trust. Just absolutely dismayed with their leaders' response, tbh.
I think not having Trump is finally letting me see all that crap that's happening elsewhere in the world, lol. I do not think we'd be in this place with our vaccination rates with the last administration. He wouldn't even push his fans to get vaccinated right now.
Yeah the UK is giving as many people the first dose as possible which has shown some effectiveness, so they are delaying the second dose by as much as 3 months.
The rest of Europe has been a mess--reading a NYT article it's because they wanted everybody to have a united front instead of letting each country decide what works best, as well as nickel and dime'ing the drug companies. Israel pays Pfizer $25 per dose, the US $20, and the EU $15. That and as HatchChile said vaccine hesitancy there runs about 35-45% compared to 25% in the US.
It is terrible how Europeans are being so reluctant about getting vaccinated. My uncle and his family live in the Netherlands and apparently the vaccine hesitancy rate is so high it's crazy. He says the people you do not usually expect to be that staunch about things that are backed by scientific evidence, highly educated professionals do not want to get it. It's seems so backwards to me. The recent rejection or back-pedalling on Astrazeneca shows that even their governments aren't fully on board with this. The blood clotting and pulmonary problems were detected in less than 50 patients. That number is so ridiculously low and that it shouldn't have triggered such panicked response. Their governments should have had some solid, clear headed response to this, instead of creating a domino effect in stopping the vaccine and losing people's trust. Just absolutely dismayed with their leaders' response, tbh.
I think not having Trump is finally letting me see all that crap that's happening elsewhere in the world, lol. I do not think we'd be in this place with our vaccination rates with the last administration. He wouldn't even push his fans to get vaccinated right now.
The entire reason we were able to develop multiple vaccines so quickly was because of his administration. He was the one who came up with utilizing private entities to help distribute the vaccines as well.
He also stated "the vaccine was "safe" and "something that works" in a recent interview.
I voted for the other guy but honestly? I'm starting to have buyers remorse already. Get past his bluster and cutting red tape was amazing for the economy as was reducing overall tax burdens. The only thing Biden knows is to tell people to wear masks and now we are going to be wearing them in perpetuity as now Fauci is now advising the admin:
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"He was saying if you've been infected, or you've been vaccinated, don't wear a mask (referring to Dr. Paul) — which is completely against all public health tenets," Fauci continued. "So he's dead wrong. I mean, I don't have anything personally against him. But he's just quite frankly incorrect."
That isn't hyperbole - it was on CBS televised live. Watch here:
Here's why it matters to me... All 3 are effective against severe illness and death, but JnJ is significantly LESS effective than Pfizer and Moderna (66% vs 94/95%). Why would I NOT want the vaccine that gives the most all around protection? So no, I'm not going to just take any old vaccine. I will do my homework and find Moderna or Pfizer. (Which I did. And got Moderna.)
That 66% vs. 95% effectiveness isn't the right comparison for several reasons. The Johnson & Johnson vaccine was tested in different settings — the US, several Latin American countries, and South Africa, where some variants of the virus were first seen. Moderna and Pfizer were not tested in those circumstances. What you should focus on is hospitalizations and deaths. All 3 vaccines have been shown to be close to 100% effective at preventing hospitalizations and deaths.
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