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Let me be clear m378, of course no one is supporting the school librarians selecting sexually explicit books. I think you know that.
But it is a slippery slope. Totally agree with you however that it is childish political arguing. Not a tiny issue for the voters however. Suburban Moms/Dads make up quite a large percentage of the population. But it does get politicians elected.
To your last point, we're in even deeper trouble if we can't come together and get a handle on the issue of what to do about guns and violence.
But the thing is, the books are STILL in the libraries. According to one person at the school board meeting last night, these books still exist in WCPSS libraries. If nobody is supporting these sexually explicit books, why are they still there? At these same meetings there are many who speak on the fact that the books should not be removed, including school librarians.
Agree on guns and violence. I wish that issue were as simple as taking books off shelves.
Nah fellow poster. That's just a massive goal post moving effort on your part. No one reading this part of the discussion would take "they're banning books" to mean all of the sudden the books aren't available like this is China.
Enjoy your Wednesday. Peace.
Seriously, the mental gymnastics (and linguistic gymnastics) right wingers go through in a pathetic attempt to support their completely illogical and absurd positions is astounding. Their facile "arguments" are so obviously ridiculous that its hard to believe anyone could say them with a straight face.
Librarians review all books prior to making them available in their library, so none are actually sexually explicit. However, conservatives want to wage a war any ideas or viewpoints other than their own, so book bans are one of their new culture wars.
Librarians review all books prior to making them available in their library, so none are actually sexually explicit. However, conservatives want to wage a war any ideas or viewpoints other than their own, so book bans are one of their new culture wars.
That's just not true unless you have a really far-fetched definition of sexually explicit. Just because some of the books are based around LGBTQ issues does not make it appropriate to be in a children's library.
Nobody is trying to ban books. What we have here, as in so many other examples, is we've seen that institutions we'd previously trusted cannot be trusted because of institutional takeover. What I'm talking about is when a few individuals within an organization are radicalized and then cow everyone else into silence or compliance with their demands. Yes, most schools and their librarians curate books that are appropriate for the audience. But we find some examples where, for whatever reason, inappropriate books are being made available. This demonstrates these institutions can't be trusted and need some oversite, and politicians act, typically by overreacting or taking the wrong action. It's two sides of the same coin, but we hear a lot of gaslighting about how the root problem doesn't actually exist, followed by outrage at any effort to ensure it doesn't happen.
The 2022-23 school year has been marked to date by an escalation of book bans and censorship in classrooms and school libraries across the United States. PEN America recorded more book bans during the fall 2022 semester than in each of the prior two semesters. Again, and again, the movement to ban books is driven by a vocal minority demanding censorship. At the same time, a 2022 poll found that over 70% of parents oppose book banning. Yet the bans continue.
The 2022-23 school year has been marked to date by an escalation of book bans and censorship in classrooms and school libraries across the United States. PEN America recorded more book bans during the fall 2022 semester than in each of the prior two semesters. Again, and again, the movement to ban books is driven by a vocal minority demanding censorship. At the same time, a 2022 poll found that over 70% of parents oppose book banning. Yet the bans continue.
But seriously, what's actually going on is a conversation about how books are curated to be age/cultural/morally appropriate within schools. What books are appropriate is a subject people are going to disagree on. But the conversation is not invalid and the result of it are not banned books.
If the word "banned" rubs you the wrong way (or if you're incapable of being anything other than extremely pedantic) then just start reading it "censored". Hopefully that helps, because its a fully accurate word for the situation.
If the word "banned" rubs you the wrong way (or if you're incapable of being anything other than extremely pedantic) then just start reading it "censored". Hopefully that helps, because its a fully accurate word for the situation.
It's not the word that has ever been used to describe books that aren't in a school library because they aren't appropriate. It's meant to imply that people are censoring books more generally and you know it. Was it book banning when the left was removing Dr. Suess and To Kill A Mockingbird and Huck Finn from schools? Or were they just curating works that were offensive to some in the name of inclusion?
If you accept the premise that a school library is not the place for some content, content that is available in a myriad of other places, then calling this book banning is intentionally misleading. We're just arguing about what content is appropriate and it's a valid conversation in which people will disagree and ultimately politics is how we settle those sorts of disagreements.
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