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Sorry, haven't read the entire thread, so if this is redundant, I apologize. You say you find sex "repulsive," yet you have never had sex so from what are you drawing your conclusion and why is it so strong?
If you had just said you weren't interested in sex, that would be one thing, but to say it is "repulsive" indicates you had some kind of negative experience, even if you do not remember it . . .
I think psychoanalysis might be very helpful to you . . . I don't know if you have any other "issues" (I would assume you do not have a relationship) . . . but to be fully functioning, realized adult, sex and relationships are part of the picture . . .
It's ok, I will repeat what I have said to others.
Sorry, haven't read the entire thread, so if this is redundant, I apologize. You say you find sex "repulsive," yet you have never had sex so from what are you drawing your conclusion and why is it so strong?
I am both repulsed and disinterested in act and the idea of sex. How do I know that sex is repulsive? I can say the same for people who think eating roaches, poo (sorry for being gross) and holding tarantulas are repulsive. I bet most people have never ate poo or roaches and probably never held a tarantula. We find these things gross, yet we have never experienced them.
If you had just said you weren't interested in sex, that would be one thing, but to say it is "repulsive" indicates you had some kind of negative experience, even if you do not remember it . . .
As I have already indicated, I have no interest in sex and I find it repulsive. I find it repulsive just like most people find eating roaches repulsive. Why is it that if I say that sex is repulsive, that indicated a negative experience? Yet, if anyone else says that eating roaches are repulsive, no one suggests a "negative experience". Maybe that person ate the wrong type of roach? Who knows. I believe I have also indicated that I have never had sex, so there are no negative experiences.
I think psychoanalysis might be very helpful to you . . . I don't know if you have any other "issues" (I would assume you do not have a relationship) . . . but to be fully functioning, realized adult, sex and relationships are part of the picture . . .
No. I am not wasting my money on "psychoanalysis". You, just like the rest of society assume that a person is mentally unhealthy if they are repulsed by sex and not interested in it. I guess people who are not interested in eating roaches need "psychoanalysis" as well. Also, please do not assume I am not a fully functioning adult. I have a high paying career, great coworkers and friends, a loving family who I look out for. I am just as fully functional as any other person. I think people find me strange since I have managed to break all stereotypes and assumptions about guys like me. Society always wants to find fault in a males like me. Sorry society, but you can be a fully functional adult without sex and relationships. It took a lot just to build up the courage to talk about this on this forum.
Thanks for replying and I hope that you see that sexuality is not as black and white as people think it is. I would suggest people stop listening to this ridiculous US media.
It's ok, I will repeat what I have said to others.
Sorry, haven't read the entire thread, so if this is redundant, I apologize. You say you find sex "repulsive," yet you have never had sex so from what are you drawing your conclusion and why is it so strong?
I am both repulsed and disinterested in act and the idea of sex. How do I know that sex is repulsive? I can say the same for people who think eating roaches, poo (sorry for being gross) and holding tarantulas are repulsive. I bet most people have never ate poo or roaches and probably never held a tarantula. We find these things gross, yet we have never experienced them.
If you had just said you weren't interested in sex, that would be one thing, but to say it is "repulsive" indicates you had some kind of negative experience, even if you do not remember it . . .
As I have already indicated, I have no interest in sex and I find it repulsive. I find it repulsive just like most people find eating roaches repulsive. Why is it that if I say that sex is repulsive, that indicated a negative experience? Yet, if anyone else says that eating roaches are repulsive, no one suggests a "negative experience". Maybe that person ate the wrong type of roach? Who knows. I believe I have also indicated that I have never had sex, so there are no negative experiences.
I think psychoanalysis might be very helpful to you . . . I don't know if you have any other "issues" (I would assume you do not have a relationship) . . . but to be fully functioning, realized adult, sex and relationships are part of the picture . . .
No. I am not wasting my money on "psychoanalysis". You, just like the rest of society assume that a person is mentally unhealthy if they are repulsed by sex and not interested in it. I guess people who are not interested in eating roaches need "psychoanalysis" as well. Also, please do not assume I am not a fully functioning adult. I have a high paying career, great coworkers and friends, a loving family who I look out for. I am just as fully functional as any other person. I think people find me strange since I have managed to break all stereotypes and assumptions about guys like me. Society always wants to find fault in a males like me. Sorry society, but you can be a fully functional adult without sex and relationships. It took a lot just to build up the courage to talk about this on this forum.
Thanks for replying and I hope that you see that sexuality is not as black and white as people think it is. I would suggest people stop listening to this ridiculous US media.
Just a couple of points: If you have a bright, shining career, you might want to rethink using your real name on a forum like this . . . to equate sex with cockroaches is absurd and misguided. We (as a collective species) have an innate repulsion for cockroaches in our DNA, based on negative experiences, no doubt . . .If you read Jung, you could see it as an archetype of a scary monster or something . . .
On the other hand, sex is fun, pleasurable and a core need for the species to propagate . . .there is nothing about sex that is "repulsive" except the sexual perversions of twisted people - but that does not diminish the beauty and pleasure of sex.
You seemed to have missed the fact that sex is pleasurable, otherwise people would not do it. Cockroaches are not pleasurable under any circumstances.
I am surprised that someone who prides himself on intellectual prowess uses such a poor, inappropriate metaphor and illogical argument.
If you don't want to have sex, fine, but don't go onto a public forum and say it is "repulsive," without any explanation as to why you would think this. That is what I suggested needs to be examined. If you are interested in your own psychology, you might wonder WHY you feel this way. It could be that you were abused as an infant, who knows? There has to be a reason.
If you merely were asexual or had a low sex drive, it wouldn't necessarily follow that you would find the idea of sex repulsive.
"Repulsive" is the key word that you should follow to unravel your sexuality.
Thank you showing maturity in your post. The idea of visiting a rabbi would not be a bad idea. What is weird is that in some societies, my views would be considered normally. Yet here in the US, I am mocked and called a weirdo. I see now that the term "weirdo" or "normal" are very subjective terms. I have to say, I am deeply disturbed by how sex crazed people are these days. Society seems to purse superficiality instead of intellectual pursuits. Seems to me that people have sex without even thinking about why they are doing it also. Sex also makes no logical sense to me. I have to ask you though, is the "sexual urge" as strong as people say it is? I often wonder if people actually ask themselves why they are having sex. Good luck on training your mind to hate sex.
Sheldon, it is truly hormonal.. However, the hormones are usually released with the help of the brain. They say about 80% of sex is mental, which I believe. However, there is the 20%, which are the physical urges that I deal with. Indeed, there was a point in my life when I was unhealthy. I was underweight, living on peanut butter and honey/jelly sandwiches. I spent a lot of time fasting, praying and didn't do much exercise or take any herbs. At that time I was quite asexual. I had no sexual feelings, thoughts or any of the like. However, once I changed my diet and lifestyle and became healthy and muscular, I had a massive blast of what they call "libido". Basically, my testosterone levels and other hormones that increase blood and funciton to reproductive areas were stimulated. So now, I feel much healthier, but have to deal with the physical feelings. Yes, they are quite physical. You are most likely lacking in these chemicals or have low testosterone level. Low sex drive and sexual feelings are more common in men then you think.
Personally, I know ways this may be remedied through herbs/fitness, but I don't think every man can overcome the sexual urges as I have. Despite, massive libido, I fight off sex. Why? Because, like you I think carnal, lustful sex is repulsive. However, unlike you, I do have the urges. Through my belief system, it is the urges that makes us beast-like, yet it is the ability to overcome them that make us more like the angels (or above the beasts, if you wish to look at it like that). They have done quite a bit of studies that in modern times many men are very low in testosterone and have low sperm counts and sex drives. This probably has to do with the poor diets and lifestyle choices many people make, not to mention chemical exposure. However, many men may be still mentally desiring sex, whereas you shun it entirely. You do realize viagra is a big seller these days? So, there are many with the desire, but not the physical ability to be sexually active. Don't get me wrong though, some people truly have genetic issues and may actually not have the physical ability to produce these chemicals no matter what. I would say it is the minority, but it certainly is possible, maybe in your case.
There are stories about men in ancient societies who had the duty to guard queens and other noble women, castrating themselves. These men would become eunuchs so they would not run risk of raping or having sexual relations with these certain women who they had the duty to protect. This practice is forbidden in Judaism, however.
Another reason you may feel safer talking with a Rabbi is that Jews don't go out of their way to convert people. If you want to discuss ethical issues, especially like this, you really may find a connection and come to a mutual understanding. It is nice to know other people share your perspective. Indeed, your mindset was quite common in older times and nobody would have thought twice. With the inventions of synthetic contraception, toxic birth control pills, abortion clinics and decrease in the mortality of women/children in childbirth, people really have forgotten what was the original function of sex.
Indeed, "normal" or "weird" are very subjective to individual societies. In ancient Greek society, men who didn't have young 8-year old male lovers were considered mentally disturbed. You can see how twisted the "normal" mindset was in some societies. There was many societies that wouldn't even blink twice about sacrificing their first-born child to their gods. Once again, that was "normal". The story of Sodom and Gomorrah would be a great example, for both an atheist and religious person, alike. It is just a representation of how some societies operated recklessly and the punishments they incurred. In my opinion, many societies throughout history, including traditional American society, would view modern American society with all it's craziness for sex as totally deranged and perverse.
Just a couple of points: If you have a bright, shining career, you might want to rethink using your real name on a forum like this . . . to equate sex with cockroaches is absurd and misguided. We (as a collective species) have an innate repulsion for cockroaches in our DNA, based on negative experiences, no doubt . . .If you read Jung, you could see it as an archetype of a scary monster or something . . .
On the other hand, sex is fun, pleasurable and a core need for the species to propagate . . .there is nothing about sex that is "repulsive" except the sexual perversions of twisted people - but that does not diminish the beauty and pleasure of sex.
You seemed to have missed the fact that sex is pleasurable, otherwise people would not do it. Cockroaches are not pleasurable under any circumstances.
I am surprised that someone who prides himself on intellectual prowess uses such a poor, inappropriate metaphor and illogical argument.
If you don't want to have sex, fine, but don't go onto a public forum and say it is "repulsive," without any explanation as to why you would think this. That is what I suggested needs to be examined. If you are interested in your own psychology, you might wonder WHY you feel this way. It could be that you were abused as an infant, who knows? There has to be a reason.
If you merely were asexual or had a low sex drive, it wouldn't necessarily follow that you would find the idea of sex repulsive.
"Repulsive" is the key word that you should follow to unravel your sexuality.
Yes, this is what I was getting at. Such a strong emotional reaction to the most natural human act does invite some self-examination I would think.
Especially because the OP implies he gets some sexual response from self-touch.
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Just a couple of points: If you have a bright, shining career, you might want to rethink using your real name on a forum like this . . . to equate sex with cockroaches is absurd and misguided. We (as a collective species) have an innate repulsion for cockroaches in our DNA, based on negative experiences, no doubt . . .If you read Jung, you could see it as an archetype of a scary monster or something . . .
On the other hand, sex is fun, pleasurable and a core need for the species to propagate . . .there is nothing about sex that is "repulsive" except the sexual perversions of twisted people - but that does not diminish the beauty and pleasure of sex.
Fun and pleasure are in the eye of the beholder. Some people think sex is fun, other people think it is dirty and repulsive. Throughout history, more people thought of sex as a dirty and sinful act, rather then fun and exciting. It was a necessary act to have children and physically connect with your spouse.
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I am surprised that someone who prides himself on intellectual prowess uses such a poor, inappropriate metaphor and illogical argument.
If you don't want to have sex, fine, but don't go onto a public forum and say it is "repulsive," without any explanation as to why you would think this. That is what I suggested needs to be examined. If you are interested in your own psychology, you might wonder WHY you feel this way. It could be that you were abused as an infant, who knows? There has to be a reason.
I don't think he was boasting about his intellectual prowess, but rather was stating he lives a normal life, but is not interested in sex. Why doesn't he have the right to share his views on sex?? Why is a person so ostracized if they are against sex?
Heroine, Meth and Cocaine are fun, pleasurable as well.. Indeed, people love heroine, meth and cocaine so much, they are willing to sell all their possessions and forget about their family members to get their fix. Does this make it ethical or right, just because it feels good?
No offense, but I think your criticisms are unfounded and more based on your biased views rather than any error with his own. I'm sure a cigarette smoker would get offended if someone came on here saying cigarette smokers stink, pollute the air and sicken others around them. They would say you have no right to share your opinion. Hence, fascism is born!
Just because carnal , lustful and loose sex is the norm of our modern society doesn't make it a good thing. Last I checked, sex has resulted in quite a few bad things you probably would not like to mention: teen pregnancies, broken homes, orphans (come to Uganda where I was if you don't believe me), STDs. Now we are having outbreaks of drug-resistant strains of Gonorrhea, Herpes, HPV and Hepatitis. Oh, did I not mention HIV?? Did you know that Washington DC metro area now has a higher HIV rate than many countries in sub-Saharan Africa??? Yeah, sex has given us so many benefits for the 10-20 minutes of joy it gives us in the bedroom.
As long as you are happy with yourself..why do you care what others think? Although I think you do care what others think..otherwise you wouldn't post such a question? And yeah..there are other men out there who don't fancy sex. I think you may be asexual if a label must be given.
Throughout history, more people thought of sex as a dirty and sinful act, rather then fun and exciting.
More people than...what? I think you are wrong about this. Repressive views about sexuality cover an extremely tiny piece of cultural history and a small population of that culture.
Read up on the reality of Victorian sexuality--you will be amazed at how it differs from commonly accepted wisdom.
Religious demagogues notwithstanding, human beings have been pleased and excited by sex since year zero. That is the way our species was created. Just as we are wired to nurture (and not eat) our children and to cooperate in communities rather than exist in isolation.
Fun and pleasure are in the eye of the beholder. Some people think sex is fun, other people think it is dirty and repulsive. Throughout history, more people thought of sex as a dirty and sinful act, rather then fun and exciting. It was a necessary act to have children and physically connect with your spouse.
I don't think he was boasting about his intellectual prowess, but rather was stating he lives a normal life, but is not interested in sex. Why doesn't he have the right to share his views on sex?? Why is a person so ostracized if they are against sex?
Heroine, Meth and Cocaine are fun, pleasurable as well.. Indeed, people love heroine, meth and cocaine so much, they are willing to sell all their possessions and forget about their family members to get their fix. Does this make it ethical or right, just because it feels good?
No offense, but I think your criticisms are unfounded and more based on your biased views rather than any error with his own. I'm sure a cigarette smoker would get offended if someone came on here saying cigarette smokers stink, pollute the air and sicken others around them. They would say you have no right to share your opinion. Hence, fascism is born!
Just because carnal , lustful and loose sex is the norm of our modern society doesn't make it a good thing. Last I checked, sex has resulted in quite a few bad things you probably would not like to mention: teen pregnancies, broken homes, orphans (come to Uganda where I was if you don't believe me), STDs. Now we are having outbreaks of drug-resistant strains of Gonorrhea, Herpes, HPV and Hepatitis. Oh, did I not mention HIV?? Did you know that Washington DC metro area now has a higher HIV rate than many countries in sub-Saharan Africa??? Yeah, sex has given us so many benefits for the 10-20 minutes of joy it gives us in the bedroom.
Won't get into all of the tit-for-tat with you, but will say sex is an innate drive of all species . . .the intake of drugs is a secondary choice - sex is innate - fetuses, inutero engage in sexual activity. It is instinctual.
Just a couple of points: If you have a bright, shining career, you might want to rethink using your real name on a forum like this . . . ..
Sheldon Cooper is a character from the show "Big Bang Theory"
For the OP Erotophobia: psychological fear of sexual intercourse and sexual feelings in general Genophobia: the fear of sexual intercourse Sexual anorexia
As long as you are happy with yourself..why do you care what others think? Although I think you do care what others think..otherwise you wouldn't post such a question? And yeah..there are other men out there who don't fancy sex. I think you may be asexual if a label must be given.
Thank you, you are right I focus too much on what other people think of me. I need to work on that.
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