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Then that sounds like a discussion that the waiter/waitress needs to have with management, not with the patrons. I don't understand how a worker can demand a certain amount in tips simply because they are afraid to negotiate the appropriate accomodations with their employers.
when has a server ever demanded a tip from you? we're talking hypothetically about the ethics of the situation here. no one is hounding you down for cash.
I think the thinking goes that the degree of expected service goes up with cost of the meal. A fine dining establishment is going to have a higher service expectation than a Denny's. That certainly has been my experience.
There are varying prices of food in fine dining establishments too. My initial post still stand. The service isn't any better when my meals are more expensive.
I went on a date with a man I met on match. He talked the whole time, which I was going to chalk up to nerves, he's a federal officer, divorced with kids. I have three rules when I date, no kids, no cops and no ex wives. Well, needless to say, he broke all the rules. However, when emailing back and forth we seemed to click, and I was really open to the idea. Also, he said several times what good money he makes.
Dinner was nice, conversation flowed just fine... when the waitress came to ask whether or not everything was on one bill, he looks at me? I then told her politely, it would be two checks. The waitress could tell we were on a first date, and she kept it on one piece of paper, but two different totals. She also set it right in front of him. He never once offered. I put out my 20.00 for the meal, and left a very nice tip too. He left 1.00 for a tip.
This has never happened to me before, although once in relationships I turn into the sugar Mama.
Is this a deal breaker? Is this just a sign of what's to come? I wouldn't have made him pay, but it's the OFFER that would have been nice...
First your rules are ridiculous and I'm glad you gave a divorced dad a chance.
Who did the inviting or was it a hey lets grab a bite... I mean a 20 dollar meal doesn't sound like an official date to me.
Now people who leave crappy tips bug me. And I make a point of pointing it out.
It's not like I have any affinity towards wait staff I just know their pay is augmented by the tips they receive and besides that it's just a matter of etiquette...
Why not have an official date with the men... have him ask you out and see how it goes. I don't care if it's W4W M4M or W4M blahh the person inviting needs to make at least an effort to pay for the entire meal. Even with friends.
when has a server ever demanded a tip from you? we're talking hypothetically about the ethics of the situation here. no one is hounding you down for cash.
There are varying prices of food in fining dining establishments too. My initial post still stand. The service isn't any better when my meal are more expensive.
This is patently absurd. The level of service is exponentially better at a fine dining establishment vs. some place like IHOP. Either you've never actually been to a nice restaurant or you're lying.
This is real simple. If he asked you out on that date, he should have paid.
If it was a mutually agreed upon first date it's a judgment call. Me personally, I would have paid unless she strongly objected. However, just from what you've shared this guy sounds cheap and it's probably a sign of things to come. Only way you'll know for sure is to see if he asks you out on a second date and then see if he offers to pay. All depends on just how much you like him and want to see him again.
This is patently absurd. The level of service is exponentially better at a fine dining establishment vs. some place like IHOP. Either you've never actually been to a nice restaurant or you're lying.
I'm comparing a $100 to a $200 meal at the exact same fine dining restaurant.
Restaurants are a luxury not a necessity. No one starves for lack of a restaurant meal. Yes I call anyone too tight to tip their server a tightwad and a scumbag who deserves the waitstaff to store snot rockets in their meal.
Doesn't matter...at the end my choice not to tip what you think you've earned will leave you starving. BTW if I suspect any foul play, not only will I call the Department of Health with your full name and the establishment's name...You'll be lucky to get a dime. So in the end, you still LOSE.
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