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Old 02-13-2012, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Where Dance Music comes first
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This sort of comment is indicative of someone who has never had a job dealing with people directly. Waitresses earn every penny they make.
What does that even mean? Don't the vast majority of people earn every penny they make?
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Old 02-13-2012, 11:45 AM
 
Location: In the loop
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If he was into you, he would have paid, no problem.

I'm not familiar with these men who expect women to pony up on dates.

I've paid for my own coffee when I was single and met someone 'to check them out' but never a meal.

On the tipping thing...if my husband doesn't leave enough, I dig into my own (slim) wallet. I know what it is like to do waitress work and these people (unless rude) deserve a fair tip.
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Old 02-13-2012, 11:47 AM
 
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A waitress walks into the back kitchen and picks up a plate of food and delivers it to the table. That sounds like so much work. I'm laughing. I would much rather tip a mechanic who fixed my car or a construction worker who builds homes for me to live in.
Wow, what you don't know about serving is a lot. No way is it that simple. You have to get the orders right, not only when taking them down but delivering them. You have to make sure the food doesn't sit too long under the lamps or let orders languish while you are running around to other tables. You have to be available for requests for things like extra napkins or a new fork if someone drops theirs. You have to time your appearances so as to deliver the bill without either rushing or delaying the patrons. You need to be physically agile because of the cramped quarters where the meals are laid out. And you need to do all of this in a hive, with other servers running around, patrons milling about or blocking the aisles as they get ready to sit or leave, and, in some cases, screaming children throwing food onto the floor and creating a hazard. It's not an easy job by a long shot.
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Old 02-13-2012, 11:48 AM
 
Location: Where Dance Music comes first
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sounds like the waiter or waitress needs to have a discussion with management then.
Or get another job. I'm not taking on the responsibility of an employer because I'm not an employer.
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Old 02-13-2012, 11:50 AM
 
Location: San Antonio, TX
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What does that even mean? Don't the vast majority of people earn every penny they make?
It means two things:

1) Making disparaging remarks about someone's job reeks of classlessness

2) Dealing with jackasses all day who demand great service but don't tip makes a crappy job even worse
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Old 02-13-2012, 11:51 AM
 
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There is a simple solution to this. Dont go to an expensive restaurant for a first date. Go have a cup of coffee. Not only both of you have an easy out if needed, it doesnt matter who picks up the check, because its a few bucks. I found that girls that live in big cities tend to have a little more progressive view of this issue and they mostly offer to pay the way. Girls living in more rural areas tend to think of these things in traditional sense and expect the guy to pick up the tab. Im a guy, and I have no problem paying for the first date, or any date after that for that matter. However, most guys do appreciate if the girl at least offers at some point, which is more often than not turned down anyhow. It can be an uncomfortable moment for both parties, but there is something I really dislike about a woman who believes a man should always pay her way. I think of it as prostitution, and if I need to buy someones time or sex, I can do so with no strings attached.
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Old 02-13-2012, 11:51 AM
 
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Wow, what you don't know about serving is a lot. No way is it that simple. You have to get the orders right, not only when taking them down but delivering them. You have to make sure the food doesn't sit too long under the lamps or let orders languish while you are running around to other tables. You have to be available for requests for things like extra napkins or a new fork if someone drops theirs. You have to time your appearances so as to deliver the bill without either rushing or delaying the patrons. You need to be physically agile because of the cramped quarters where the meals are laid out. And you need to do all of this in a hive, with other servers running around, patrons milling about or blocking the aisles as they get ready to sit or leave, and, in some cases, screaming children throwing food onto the floor and creating a hazard. It's not an easy job by a long shot.
Do you think the waitresses work harder than the cooks? Who do you think deserves the bigger tips?
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Old 02-13-2012, 11:53 AM
 
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It happens. "Generosity" doesn't always operate on the same tandem. I personally for example have donations taken out of personal account monthly, but I hesitate to "give" money away on the streets. I have my reasons for doing one and not the other.
Ah, I see what you're saying. Still, that makes no difference to me. Generosity is a different topic, really.
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Old 02-13-2012, 11:54 AM
 
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Do you think the waitresses work harder than the cooks? Who do you think deserves the bigger tips?
The cooks earn a higher hourly wage. Sad, but true.
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Old 02-13-2012, 11:55 AM
 
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Do you think the waitresses work harder than the cooks? Who do you think deserves the bigger tips?

Cooks and chefs usually don't get paid less than minimum wage. They usually draw a steady, stable salary.

It sounds like you need to learn more about the restaurant industry.
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