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Old 04-22-2012, 01:48 PM
 
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I never did until somewhat recently. The year after college, truth be told. I just felt that I was missing out on something important & I decided to start trying. When I found out it was so miserable, with girls lying & generally being horrible human beings, well.....I guess I just didn't expect that. I was a bit taken aback.
As a guy, we face alot of propaganda stating our self worth is based on how well we do with women (amongst other things), and TBH I wonder if you're falling into the same trap.

I'm fully ready and prepared to die a virgin. That's not "big talk", that's the god honest truth. And no, that's not becuase I don't like women either. It's a testament to the fact that I place my own happyness and principals above any abritary "goal" of having female attention. Women can smell desparation 1 million miles away, and humans being predators will seize upon that to take advantage.

Women aren't horrible human beings, but the more central you place women in your life the more you'll attract horrible women. Women generally want us to be the stronger ones and the more you don't need women the more they'll want you.

 
Old 04-22-2012, 01:56 PM
 
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Loyalty and honor, require consistency of character, which a certain group severely lacks. Women are emotional creatures while men are logical creatures. This is why a woman would be completely engrossed in a conversation about how blowing bubbles out of your butt made you feel during your last hot bath, and completely disinterested in a conversation about global politics or how technology improves our lives. True story.
Again, I do not think this is based on gender and this forum certainly attests to that since it holds its fair share of irrational men. Come to think of it you and your post highlights this. Bigotry is not rational or logical. It's childish and speaks to a lacking skill set and diminished intellect. Men who make such statements are always of the foolish variety.
 
Old 04-22-2012, 02:00 PM
 
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The only men I've ever met who were bitter towards women were bitter because they have always been constantly rejected by women and are sexually envious/frustrated. The last thing any woman wants to be around is a bitter man who dislikes women. So the self-loathing and anger is self-perpetuating.

Most emotionally healthy straight men LOVE women, love being around them and are happy around women.

Can't say it any better than that.

Everyone runs into dry spells and times when dating is no fun. That's when you step back and realize you are letting either your circumstances or your own poor judgement get in the way of your happiness. If every woman you meet rejects you, you're going for the wrong women. It's the same for women. If every man you meet is a selfish jerk, you're meeting the wrong men. You're either unconsciously sabotaging yourself, or you're deliberately being stubborn in expecting a different result after doing the same thing 23 times.

Soviet, take a break from dating. Learn to appreciate women as people and friends.
 
Old 04-22-2012, 02:03 PM
 
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Women aren't horrible human beings, but the more central you place women in your life the more you'll attract horrible women. Women generally want us to be the stronger ones and the more you don't need women the more they'll want you.

I agree.
 
Old 04-22-2012, 02:04 PM
 
Location: Huntersville/Charlotte, NC and Washington, DC
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As a guy, we face alot of propaganda stating our self worth is based on how well we do with women (amongst other things), and TBH I wonder if you're falling into the same trap.

I'm fully ready and prepared to die a virgin. That's not "big talk", that's the god honest truth. And no, that's not becuase I don't like women either. It's a testament to the fact that I place my own happyness and principals above any abritary "goal" of having female attention. Women can smell desparation 1 million miles away, and humans being predators will seize upon that to take advantage.

Women aren't horrible human beings, but the more central you place women in your life the more you'll attract horrible women. Women generally want us to be the stronger ones and the more you don't need women the more they'll want you.
You make really good points.
 
Old 04-22-2012, 02:04 PM
 
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Learn to appreciate women as people and friends.

This is excellent advice. So much of the talk here sounds like some people see the opposite gender in such black and white terms, instead of as human beings with complexities and layers and flaws and wonderful qualities. I have a feeling that many of those who like to bash on an entire gender have very little experience with that gender outside of romantic rejection.
 
Old 04-22-2012, 02:19 PM
 
Location: southern california
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I dont know why you guys are getting so defensive over what I said. Women indeed ARE emotional creatures, while men are logical creatures. Most women will be very interested in guys talking about what they felt, rather than talking about politics or the great new CPU they just upgraded in their computer. This isnt my opinion, nor am I criticizing anyone. It isnt bad or good, it just is. There is plenty of scientific sources backing to what Im saying
my SO tells me she needs a break now and then. I am too emotional.
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Old 04-22-2012, 02:20 PM
 
Location: TX
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Most men avoid women who label themselves feminists.
Proof?

While I probably wouldn't be attracted to a woman who obsessed over it, I wouldn't avoid a woman who verbally let it be known she was a feminist.

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Women indeed ARE emotional creatures, while men are logical creatures.
Hey, at least give yourself a fighting chance. Throw in the word "most" every now and then
 
Old 04-22-2012, 02:20 PM
 
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my SO tells me she needs a break now and then. I am too emotional.
flowers 4 u
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Amazing, that just may my day. Cheers!
 
Old 04-22-2012, 02:26 PM
 
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This is excellent advice. So much of the talk here sounds like some people see the opposite gender in such black and white terms, instead of as human beings with complexities and layers and flaws and wonderful qualities. I have a feeling that many of those who like to bash on an entire gender have very little experience with that gender outside of romantic rejection.
Or maybe they can't see people of that gender as anything other than a potential date, mate, or conquest. Take romance out of the equation for a while, and you can learn a lot.

Maybe that's why I've had such good luck with men. Back in my late 20s, a girlfriend and I were often the only two women out in a group. We love sports, used to keep stats for a men's rec league basketball team, and (not that I'm proud of this) knock back some tequila with the best of 'em, without any of the notoriously nasty repercussions. Believe me, I have no illusions that we were just "two of the guys," but we were never treated as "chicks," either. We looked like "chicks" all feminine and made up, but we both had a strong tomboy streak, knew how to shoot, and were independent. She had me beat, though, because she drove a stick and knew how to use power tools.

I learned a lot about men that way, seeing how they interacted with each other and with the women they'd date. We usually knew before they did that they would end up dumping someone. Very insightful.
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