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Old 06-06-2012, 01:58 PM
 
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Majority of men I seen in the bars act like they are their for one night stands or whatever.
So what? What's the big deal in that? Sex makes you feel good and it relives stress.

Wow, you Americans have so many hangups about sex it's no wonder why so many people in this country are either mentally ill or try and humanize their pets.



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They get upset when this doesn't pan out for them.
I don't blame them. What other options do they have if prostitution is ILLEGAL.
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Old 06-06-2012, 01:59 PM
 
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I concur. If women are so tired of men wanting sex, they need to start advocating for the decriminalization of prostitution.

I admit that American men are horndogs, but it's only because their sex drives are being systematically suppressed.
Now wait. Its not that women are tired of men wanting sex, not at all. Actually most women want more sex. Its the men who are strangers in a bar that believe they are entitled to sex just because the women are in the bar and or they sent a drink over.

I have no problem with the legalization of prostitution. I dont know why you believe mens sex drives are being surpressed. There is more acceptance of sexual promiscuity these days. The taboos are removed from women to have pre-marital sex and there is viagra. If anything men have more opportunity and support for uncommitted sex.
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Old 06-06-2012, 02:06 PM
 
Location: Canada
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if you stopped getting into a huff over your expectations of what women should be doing based on what you want to happen


This quote is my new favorite!! This really sums up so much of the misery we see here on C-D relationships.
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Old 06-06-2012, 02:10 PM
 
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I think men should just quit approaching women altogether. If women want men then they should do the work.
Actually they do, but women only approach the top 10% of the guys like pro athletes, rock starts, flashy drug dealers, or successful businessmen.

For example, I knew a flashy rich guy and he told me women would leave their panties with their telephone number written on them on the windshield of his Ferrari. He said his GF made him sell the car because so many women would try and pursue him.
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Old 06-06-2012, 02:19 PM
 
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Actually they do, but women only approach the top 10% of the guys like pro athletes, rock starts, flashy drug dealers, or successful businessmen.
The truth is most men believe this and make themselves unapproachable. I am none of those things, and get approached every time I go out. Whether I am with a group of guys, a girl, or alone. The guys mentioned above all will make eye contact with a woman they don't know, and won't hesitate to approach women. Taking the time to approach just one woman can be the signal to other women that if they are interested in you that they need to get your attention. Sure the rich or famous have an easier time, but most guys walk around like schmucks thinking they are not worthy to be noticed, and then get mad about not being noticed.
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Old 06-06-2012, 02:21 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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What are you talking about? I don't date. Again, when I went to the bars they RARELY talked to me. If most of my friends went to the bar for the night what am I supposed to do, stay home? Duh. I went also.

LMAO @ the reasons you go to a bar. You can't understand why women go, for the same reasons just to have fun, we have to want to be 'picked up by men,' in order to go to a bar..... I don't have to fit you into a box, you do it on your own within threads like this.
But yet you have no problems assuming reasons why men go to a bar. I love how you act like by ignoring men, you're somehow getting back at them. Get over yourself already, you should be happy men don't talk to you, seeing as you have a deep-seated animosity towards them.
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Old 06-06-2012, 02:25 PM
 
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Now wait. Its not that women are tired of men wanting sex, not at all. Actually most women want more sex. Its the men who are strangers in a bar that believe they are entitled to sex just because the women are in the bar and or they sent a drink over.
Again, if prostitution was legalized then many of these men would not even be in the bar in the first place because they could get what they really want.

I do agree that men should not feel entitled to sex just because the're buying a girl drinks.

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I dont know why you believe mens sex drives are being surpressed.
There are books and tons of articles on the sexual repression in America.



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There is more acceptance of sexual promiscuity these days. The taboos are removed from women to have pre-marital sex and there is viagra. If anything men have more opportunity and support for uncommitted sex.
The thing is, a man still has to make a monumental investment in time and money in order to convince a woman to sleep with him.

I would also argue that the acceptance of sexual promiscuity only favors the woman because she's free to sleep with whomever even if she's not even goodlooking or hot, all while the men who can't complete for female attention (even if they are decent hard working men men) are left out in the cold.

This is where prostitution comes in, some men just don't want to invest in the time that it takes to woo individual women, and other men simply don't have the skills. You can't just leave these men shut out from access to women if they positively contribute to society.

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Old 06-06-2012, 02:28 PM
 
Location: California
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You are correct. I've seen that too. I've even seen men who are more interested in each other. It's very weird. I guess this happened because men and women have been played against each other so often that they really don't want to associate anymore.

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Bars and nightclubs seem to be crowded with mostly men and the women there seemed to be totally un interested in men at all .Perhaps I am wrong in my perception but I was wondering if other people feel the same way as I do..
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Old 06-06-2012, 02:29 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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So guys like me, who are the EXCEPTION to all this madness, simply just get lost within all the noise, right? WE pay the price for the actions and behaviors of the scumbags, right? WE get to be lumped in with the losers, right? Terrific.

And then people wonder why I have such a negative view of people and relationships in general. It's tiring to be constantly told you're the bad guy, you're no good, etc.

The proof is in the puddin'.

I got "lost in all the noise" for the majority of my adult life as a woman where men were concerned. I watched them consistently go after the same types of women and then claim they 'don't want those types.' I was not the only woman in my group that went through this. Granted, now I could give a crap about being approached by them but there was a time when I would've liked to date and/or get married....Not to be rude but if feel like you're in the same position now that I was in, I don't know what to tell you except to say, now you know how it feels. Frustrating, isn't it?
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Old 06-06-2012, 02:33 PM
 
Location: Infernuan
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I got "lost in all the noise" for the majority of my adult life as a woman where men were concerned. I watched them consistently go after the same types of women and then claim they 'don't want those types.' I was not the only woman in my group that went through this. Granted, now I could give a crap about being approached by them but there was a time when I would've liked to date and/or get married....Not to be rude but if feel like you're in the same position now that I was in, I don't know what to tell you except to say, now you know how it feels. Frustrating, isn't it?
The difference between you and I is that I haven't given up. You, OTOH... well, it's obvious.

I simply try to be positive in the face of seemingly insurmountable odds.
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