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Old 10-30-2012, 06:49 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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Most self proclaimed 'nice guys' are only nice because they want something, not because they're actually good people. When they're denied this 'something' they want, they flip out and call people all kinds of fun names and accuse them of being users. I've seen this happen to a number of girlfriends of mine.
Then this isn't a nice guy. Nice guys are just that--sweet guys. No muss, no fuss.

 
Old 10-30-2012, 06:51 PM
 
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I never really see how being a nice guy is wrong.
It's just negative propaganda spread by those who are jealous that the (genuinely) nice guys do get women's attention.
 
Old 10-30-2012, 06:56 PM
 
Location: FL
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Then this isn't a nice guy. Nice guys are just that--sweet guys. No muss, no fuss.
I agree Ruth but some women will never be convinced. And when you're being nice to them they think that you want something.
 
Old 10-30-2012, 06:58 PM
 
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I agree Ruth but some women will never be convinced. And when you're being nice to them they think that you want something.
So who needs 'em? Women like that are a dime a dozen. Look for the gems who appreciate what you have to offer. (After you transfer to a better locale. )
 
Old 10-30-2012, 08:38 PM
 
Location: Texas
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So who needs 'em? Women like that are a dime a dozen. Look for the gems who appreciate what you have to offer. (After you transfer to a better locale. )
I'll take some heat for this but the bold is increasingly harder and harder to find. It should be obvious that good-looking women know that they are a hot commodity (pun intended) and therefore can act out of line because there will always be a line of guys drooling over her.
 
Old 10-30-2012, 08:49 PM
 
Location: SF CA, USA
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I'll take some heat for this but the bold is increasingly harder and harder to find. It should be obvious that good-looking women know that they are a hot commodity (pun intended) and therefore can act out of line because there will always be a line of guys drooling over her.
I think the older you get the easier it gets to find wise and sensible people, especially after 30 or so, when people of both genders start thinking more clearly and stop the silly games of their 20s. There's a reason that I never approach women my age, they are not the "gems" mentioned in Ruth's post. I'm sure there are a few out there but it's not worth combing through the haystack.
 
Old 10-30-2012, 09:23 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Most self proclaimed 'nice guys' are only nice because they want something, not because they're actually good people. When they're denied this 'something' they want, they flip out and call people all kinds of fun names and accuse them of being users. I've seen this happen to a number of girlfriends of mine.
I got called out on this awhile ago. I was talking on another message board about the whole Nice Guys Finish Last thing. And one of the women responded that it's not really being nice if your objective is to get laid. I had to admit, she had a good point there. It's not exactly charity work if you are hoping to get sex out of it.
 
Old 10-30-2012, 09:23 PM
 
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I'll take some heat for this but the bold is increasingly harder and harder to find. It should be obvious that good-looking women know that they are a hot commodity (pun intended) and therefore can act out of line because there will always be a line of guys drooling over her.
Then why not go for the not super attractive women? The ones who would actually appreciate you?
 
Old 10-30-2012, 09:25 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Most self proclaimed 'nice guys' are only nice because they want something, not because they're actually good people. When they're denied this 'something' they want, they flip out and call people all kinds of fun names and accuse them of being users. I've seen this happen to a number of girlfriends of mine.
And also, it's pretty bad if you have to tell other people you are nice. Actions speak louder than words.
 
Old 10-31-2012, 08:32 AM
 
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I'll take some heat for this but the bold is increasingly harder and harder to find. It should be obvious that good-looking women know that they are a hot commodity (pun intended) and therefore can act out of line because there will always be a line of guys drooling over her.
I guess it depends on what you're looking for. To be quite brutally honest: I can identify the "really hot" girls because they're prototypically taller, blond hair, they all dress the same, and every guy at the bar is drooling over them. I look for what I call "hidden hotties" as in women that are attractive or cute, they just don't flaunt it as much or they have positive attitude or a great personality.

I think as I get older it gets easier to identify the good people from the bad people, and it just makes me realize that I have no time in my life for the bad and don't let them get to me.

I also think there's a lot of women who have been disillusioned by media and movies about what to expect from men in a relationship, as a boyfriend, as a husband. I think my last gf was a perfect example. She explained to me that she wanted a love at first sight head over heels in love relationship, she used the words "I want a fairy tale love story". I'm not saying all women are in this mindset, but I can't help but notice in many women I know and have dated that this entitlement to a fairy-tale is prevelant in their expectations. I always thought maybe 30 was the magic age that most men and women wake up from their pre-concieved notions about what to expect they can land in a partner and what's really important in life....but I think there's a good percentage of the population who will never wake up from this dream.
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